My point is already made, you just ignored it too many times, and you have nothing to make your own point.

Every time owpvp is successfully used to control a spot, the whole game screams : "woots doesn't know meeeeee!"

Simply because you're unable to see the reward, you deny the rest. But by making the other leave, or simply by breaking its rhythm and getting back mobs on your own rotation, you're already rewarded if you use your karma smartly.  That's how deep owpvp is linked to the whole pvpve system. Like it or not. 

As you deny the obvious meaning, use and rewards of owpvp in this game, you're not fit to talk about this game. Get out, themepark boy.

As English is not my native language, it seemed to me that "badmouthing" was lighter than "insulting". Which would be the word I would use for your last answer. ^^

But it doesn't change anything as I couldn't care less about it : you hit a wall and this is your last resort. Too bad for you. 

or maybe just play the game as is

or maybe just play the game as is

Nothing wrong with having PvE servers alongside PvP. Season servers boost BDO popularity a lot. You know why some people complain about PvE servers? Because they want to grief others while pretending they are pro PvPers. You see them in server chat talking down players in safe zones then you realise they are the same people hiding in Olvia or Season servers rather than actually going to the PvP servers where the real hardcore PvPers be at. 

The arsha server is a giant waste of resources.  It's empty.  The PvE server will be the same as soon as you all realize what a griefer's paradise that server will be.  The normal server works fine with all it's checks and balances as long as you are not a moron or an asshole almost all the time.  So don't be a moron or an asshole.

Make every other server PVP, odds pvp, evens pve

None of the supposed systems to keep it balance are truly working for anyone. PvP players want the karma system removed/reworked and PvE players want PvE servers.

what point ? Where are your argument based on BDO systemic functionments ?

since more than a month you just strawman around with your low cost reddit troll level -like attempt at empty talk like if it will help make your wet dream become a reality.

You are just a clown not smart enough to have what you attempt to do work as you are spoted since a WHILE now. ( the saddest part of that, is you keep insist on the same path like if magicaly it would change anything. )

So either you have real argument to have a conversation that worth more than the emptyness you are producing each time you type something here.

or become adult enough to quit your BS that doesnt hold a second. ( and if you cant accept that your BDO dream is just a dream and not the reality, i'am sure you could find psy competent enough to help you during that process )

Which means it is a good system for both types of players to coexist in.  And it is...once again, unless one is an asshole or a moron.  And I don't want a system that caters to either of those groups of people thanks.

If it was a good system for both, both kind of players would be happy. But unless you live likes somes person here in a alternate reality.

Its easyly observable that its not the case.

- pker arent happy to see players able to ignore "forced pk" ( hello the "karmabombing thread, or various suggestion to setup pk-ed penalty )

- players wishing for pve channels still dont like to see whatever randoms beeing able to impose on them something the dont like ( whatever if beside a wasted time ( which is already too much ) there no particular consequences )

Both types of players are not happy by the situation. Only PA ( and somes players ) still is pepega enough to believe that this situation "is fine"

Saying you want to "don't want a system that caters to either of those groups of people" is a dream viable only on paper.

In the reality, its not the case otherwise you would see a lot of "pvpve" game, but since its not the case, you can perfectly get that such thing isnt doable ( or you need to have competent gamedesigner like for ArcheAge or Eve, but even in that situation no one will recommand you AA if you are not ready to have a "heavy" owpvp life )

TL;DR once again the bad clown tried to strike again.

Either again demonstrating how your concept understanding is low & limited.

Or that you are just a sad troll as you keep on purpose fallicously ignoring somes game reality to try to have your "how i dream BDO" look like a reality.

In both situation, you are just not smart enough to have what you attempt to do work.

You mean after all thoses talk you keep try to strawman and pretend to not know what "owpvp to control a spot" will only work if the 2 ( or more ) players agree on the player made up rules that "pk will determine who keep the spot"

And you still try to conveniently omit the reality where, if a player choose to not agree with "if pked he leave the spot" the "owpvp" will make you control jack sh#t.

Meaning after all thoses talk you are still unable to understand the difference between : On a systemic level & It only depend on player agreement.

As the "owpvp spot control" depend on player "agreement" but on a systemic level just never existed ( otherwise you couldnt complain about what you call "karmabombing" or wouldnt attempt to suggest that the pked player suffer from whatever penalty )

Crappy point attempt answered, and corrected.

leading to always the same thing : BDO systems dont need forced pk to function & be, forced pk only beeing dependant on "player wish"  so have no reasons to be imposed to players not willing it.