Don't wanna deal with guild decs?  Don't be in a guild full of a-holes who draw decs from multiple guilds.

That wasn't the point. I wasn't whining about being griefed. The point was displaying how dishonest his post was. To think that charging these types of guilds 1 million silver a day is going to stop them. They've spent way more to get the gear that enables them to grief like that.

And what I said is :

What's nice is that they reworked the GW dec system in a way that protects smaller clans against obvious abuses, so they seem to be in the right mindset for this work, but we'll see! 

Nothing's wrong nor dishonest in it, yet that's why you chose to jump on me again. 

And after you count again, read again because you missed one part of the change. Next stunt incoming. 

But that's false. They didn't "reworked the GW dec system in a way that protects smaller clans against obvious abuses." They just provided a facade that they did. Because anyone with a cursory of in game knowledge knows. That only charging these griefer guilds 1 million silver per day. Is not even going to come close to make them think about the cons to circumventing the karma system. It's freaking 1 million per a day only adding 1% of the guild's total bank balance to a maxium of 3%.

Did you actually read that section? Or did you just tooks someone else word of mouth? I mean just stop being dishonest about things like this. It doesn't help you push your points when you do this.

What point? Every point, for several months now. That's even why you are on your loop and so aggressive for so long. 

Double quote of my answers, without any message from me between them? It smells like despair, right? XD

To put another nails in the salsuud strawman coffin

Imagine ! one month ago i was already talking about that strawman already unable to argument & demonstrate his premise.

Imagine, that guy since a month still try to dodge

So again Mr strawman.

- Where are your proof regarding pve channels beeing detrimental to BDO

- What pve systems did they changed because forced pk was disabled ? ( like did mob spawn was changed ? did loot was changed ? did xp curve was changed ? ... etc etc )

"agressive for so long" lets translate :

hello, i'am sadalsud, i know i'am just a strawman empty talker, i tried various fallacious logic attempt : Didnt worked ,various distration : Didnt worked. And now since i still have nothing to bring on the table, and keep be cornered and exposed everytime more, i have no other choice to to play the poisoningwheel as if magicaly it would help me get out.

Yup, another bad distraction attempt that still doesnt work. Sorry strawman.

Lets just remember that here too.

Lets keep expose yourself :

Again, where are your arguments, and demonstration regarding  ?

The arsha server is a giant waste of resources.  It's empty.  The PvE server will be the same as soon as you all realize what a griefer's paradise that server will be.  The normal server works fine with all it's checks and balances as long as you are not a moron or an asshole almost all the time.  So don't be a moron or an asshole.

The PVE servers would not allow pvp, or pk or griefing. That is the point of them if they would only do it. I bet they would see an increase of participation. I for one would play much more, hence spend more real life money. 

I'm sorry, but if you think griefing will stop because they remove PvP...you are too naive to have any valuable input.  Might as ask a 4 year old what they think.  Even after REPEATEDLY being told HOW you will be griefed no less.  Or the fact that we had like 4 seasons worth of data showing how it will play out.  Nope...still refuse to believe and think that griefing = PvP only.  Holy jeebus the level of idiocy in the PvE server crowd.