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Strategy to get best possible Unicorn
6 juil. 2023, 12:25 (UTC)
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Dernière modification : 6 juil. 2023, 12:25 (UTC)
# 1

Hello!
Ok, so we all devoted ones got a prize for our loyalty and commitment, now comes the interesting part.

The question is, what item and at what stage of leveling my Unicron should I use if I want all skills at level 30 and max possible Speed/Acceleration/Turn/Brake considering RNG and time?

What I got so far (was saving for 2 years):

- 2 Mount Skill Selection Coupon (once per horse)
- 1 Mount Brand Stone (+10% chance to learn a skill)
- 35 Mount Skill Change Coupon
- 2 Reset Mount Growth potions
- 2 Mount All Skill Training Coupon
- 1 Horse breeding reset (female)
- 1 Horse breeding reset (male)
- 2 Premium Horse Appearance Change Coupon

- Granvere +5 set (five items)

- Oquilla pearl shop horse dress (four items)

- Training mastery Artisan 10

I dont care if I lose all coupons and potions in the process because I plan to ride my horse myself and most likely I will not try to make Mythical because it takes very long time and I have a life, or maybe in very distant future. Not planning to level up another horse, too.

All I want right now is level 30 with all skills at 100% and max possible Speed/Acceleration/Turn/Brake with Speed and Turn more preferable than Brake and Acceleration.

I've been told training mastery increase stats next 'bracket' at Master 3 and Guru 10. Master 3 I can achieve, but Guru is probably way too long.

My current plan is:

- rush to Training Master 3

- use Mount Brand Stone at Unicorn level 1

- use Mount Skill Selection Coupon (once per horse allowed) <<< Which skill to choose? Probably 'hardest to get naturally', which one it is?

- use Skill Change coupons while leveling Unicorn <<< What skill change to what? At what level to change, ASAP or wait?

- at level 30:

   -- all skills learned > use Mount All Skill Training Coupon (happy end)

   -- not all skills learned > use Reset Mount Growth potion and start anew (not happy end, but still got 1 chance to redo, but it's better to not end up with this outcome)

What do you think about my strategy, can it be improved and how? Any comments and advices are greatly appreciated.

Dernière modification : 6 juil. 2023, 13:04 (UTC)
# 2
Am 06. Jul 2023, 12:25 (UTC), von Sarjane

- rush to Training Master 3

Higher training level means better chance of higher stats increase and skill learning probability. So thats good.

Am 06. Jul 2023, 12:25 (UTC), von Sarjane

- use Mount Brand Stone at Unicorn level 1

Not realy necessary.

Am 06. Jul 2023, 12:25 (UTC), von Sarjane

- use Mount Skill Selection Coupon (once per horse allowed) <<< Which skill to choose? Probably 'hardest to get naturally', which one it is?

Only use it if one skill is missing at level 30!

Am 06. Jul 2023, 12:25 (UTC), von Sarjane

- use Skill Change coupons while leveling Unicorn <<< What skill change to what? At what level to change, ASAP or wait?

Wait a few levels and only start using them at level 10+.
Change Curser Spirit to a "hard to get" skill like S:Sidestep.
Curser Spirit has a realy high probability to be learned again on next level up. When learned again, continue till u got all skills.

Am 06. Jul 2023, 12:25 (UTC), von Sarjane

- at level 30:

   -- all skills learned > use Mount All Skill Training Coupon (happy end)

   -- not all skills learned > use Reset Mount Growth potion and start anew (not happy end, but still got 1 chance to redo, but it's better to not end up with this outcome)

With changing Curser spirit, the skills will not be a problem.
The only thing you can focus on are the stats.
Diné starts with 133 speed.
Per level you can gain between 0.1 and 1.3 in each stat. So the max you can get is 170.7 speed (without any equipment), but this is almost impossible.

A realy good Diné has like 160 speed at level 30 (without any equipment). (thats like 0.9 per level on average)

So you should focus on something between 155 and 160.
Same goes for accelaration.
For turn and brake good stats are 147+

BTW: I think you also got the event item "Vipiko’s Dreaming Horse". Where you can get a T9 of ur choice from. The T9 you get is level 1 but will have all skills learned!

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Rohnjara
Dernière modification : 6 juil. 2023, 13:42 (UTC)
# 3

Yes, its Vipiko Dream horse, I just checked - she has 24 skills all at 100%, so it simplifies the process a bit :)

So basically now all I have to do is try and maximize Speed/Acceleration/Turn/Brake brackets by increasing my Training Mastery to at least 3, while next bracket Guru 10 is probably not achievable.

Dernière modification : 7 juil. 2023, 05:41 (UTC)
# 4

As far as I know min stat gain at master 4 is still higher than at master 3. Don't know the exact numbers but it's something like this: at master 3 it might be 0.2, at master 4 it might be 0.2025. 

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Saeii
Dernière modification : 7 juil. 2023, 08:48 (UTC)
# 5
Am 07. Jul 2023, 05:41 (UTC), von Saeii

As far as I know min stat gain at master 4 is still higher than at master 3. Don't know the exact numbers but it's something like this: at master 3 it might be 0.2, at master 4 it might be 0.2025. 

Thats just speculation, because these numbers will never be shown.

Also, if it was true it doesn't matter. Because it would still be the same end result. 10 levels with 0.2 is still the same as 10 levels with 0.2025.

(10 x 0.2025 = 2.025 ≈ 2.0)

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Rohnjara
Dernière modification : 27 janv. 2024, 11:17 (UTC)
# 6

Is anybody knows if PA or trustworthy entities ever published the actual numbers?

All I can find is this post : https://bdonexus.info/wiki/horse-stats-caps/

It says:
"BDO Horses have what players call "Caps" or "Break Points". This means you cannot see or feel a difference in your horse speed until you go past a certain number. All stats in a certain bracket feel the same.

The Caps are every 10 points: Ex. 140.1%, 150.1%, and 160.1%

You'll be just as fast at 150.1% as 160% Speed.

For T8, try to obtain horses that can reach above 150.1% with gear. Turn is the least important.

The most important two skills are Drift + Instant Accel animation cancel. Sprint is also beneficial."

So if I get 160.1% speed without gear - this is very ok horse, right? While 170.1% is very unlikely to get so I should not aim at all.

And the important question, how exactly Traning Mastery affects is still unclear, I understand more Mastery gives better chance of getting min stat gain at horse level ups, but thise Master-3 and Guru-10 - where are they come from, is it a guess or official info ?

Dernière modification : 27 janv. 2024, 12:32 (UTC)
# 7
Am 27. Jan 2024, 11:17 (UTC), von Sarjane

Is anybody knows if PA or trustworthy entities ever published the actual numbers?

All I can find is this post : https://bdonexus.info/wiki/horse-stats-caps/

It says:
"BDO Horses have what players call "Caps" or "Break Points". This means you cannot see or feel a difference in your horse speed until you go past a certain number. All stats in a certain bracket feel the same.

The Caps are every 10 points: Ex. 140.1%, 150.1%, and 160.1%

You'll be just as fast at 150.1% as 160% Speed.

For T8, try to obtain horses that can reach above 150.1% with gear. Turn is the least important.

The most important two skills are Drift + Instant Accel animation cancel. Sprint is also beneficial."

So if I get 160.1% speed without gear - this is very ok horse, right? While 170.1% is very unlikely to get so I should not aim at all.

This myst has bean debunked a long time ago! Speed does not have brackets!

If you have a horse with 160.1 and someone else got a horse with 160.9 and you two run side by side, you will notice he is faster!
The only stat with brackets is "brake".

Also, the statement "Turn is the least important." is not true! Turn is very important for afk traveling!

Am 27. Jan 2024, 11:17 (UTC), von Sarjane

And the important question, how exactly Traning Mastery affects is still unclear, I understand more Mastery gives better chance of getting min stat gain at horse level ups, but thise Master-3 and Guru-10 - where are they come from, is it a guess or official info ?

Mastery does not effect the chance of getting better stats, it effects the xp a horse gets and the chance to get a higher tier while breeding!

The training level gives better chances in getting better speed stats on level up, higher chances to learn a skill on levelup and raises the profit you get on selling horses on the market.

All this can be seen ingame by pressing P and hovering over the training skill info.

If you want to learn more about horses and horse stats you should visit the bdo horse community discord: https://discord.gg/bdhorsecommunity

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Dernière modification : 27 janv. 2024, 14:32 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jan 27, 2024, 12:32 (UTC), Written by Megta

The training level gives better chances in getting better speed stats on level up

Got it. Wonder how reasonable it is to level up to Guru-XX (50 ideally) before jumping on my hard-earned Dine? It may take a huge time, looking at how slowly it increases for 3 days I ride in Forest Path Wagon for event - not even a single Master level, still at Master-2 ...

Dernière modification : 27 janv. 2024, 23:36 (UTC)
# 9
Am 27. Jan 2024, 14:32 (UTC), von Sarjane

Got it. Wonder how reasonable it is to level up to Guru-XX (50 ideally) before jumping on my hard-earned Dine? It may take a huge time, looking at how slowly it increases for 3 days I ride in Forest Path Wagon for event - not even a single Master level, still at Master-2 ...

Here is a spreadsheat for training life skill and mastery. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1erIfp07xnYWG6N0HYPjWiBRCuncOa0x0si_-3XiZHyI/edit#gid=0

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Rohnjara
Dernière modification : 28 janv. 2024, 23:41 (UTC)
# 10
On: Jan 27, 2024, 23:36 (UTC), Written by Megta

Thanks, exactly what I needed.
So if I really want to get to Guru-50 to max my chances of getting better min stat increase, I will need:

- Master 2 to Master 3 took ~3 days, and its ~9.6M exp;

- Guru 50 needs ~2.6B;

- 2.6B/9.6M*3 = ~812 days only to level up Guru 50 level, not uncluding everything before;

I'm using TET Manos Crop, TET Manos Traning clothes, +70% Training exp crystals set, Seafood cron meal buff.

I assume even if I add more +exp items and buff, it really will not make much difference.

So th artifact set, attire, Life exp tome, scroll and draught and stonetail meal for 40M silver, its probably just a waste of time and effort, AND STILL it wont guarantee anything in the end.
I probably should just ride this Dream and not look into numbers, somehow I rode a T8 given me with welcome pack when I bought the game 2 years ago.
Too bad I already invested ~10B into gear and crystals and Forest Path Wagon only to realise it will not help me at all, the goal is way too far away and frankly speaking, unachievable.

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