And that's exactly your problem, as "rotation" its something your are personaly making up / created by players mind.

You can go back to what i've said, which is what related to "what you own" at a certain instant regarding a open world multilayer game setting.

As i said, ( again ) the issue here, is what you want that doesnt align with what the game is / how its made. So necessary that difference create a lot of problem you would not have if you would take the game as it really is ( and as how the "i own a public item" actualy is )

And pve channel request never implied that magicaly you wouldnt have "toxic" players anymore, but again, just the ability to not see anymore something totaly unwanted and not necessary ( when you dont want that ) for a BDO pve experience.

So as you prefer play with forced pvp and prefer that kind of experience, well then that's cool you would still do so, and others players would be in "no forced pvp" channel version.

All in one, everyone would have what they want for that point. ( = ofc the "i want to play with or without forced pvp", as ofc, that alone doesnt solve world global warming )

Okay...for those who wants PvE only servers...think about trying to grind anything on seasonal servers and having people just grind over you...making EVERYTHING that EVERYONE does take 10x as long.  Now you want that ALL the time in the high end zones you need to progress in the game...k.  

Personally, I do like it for them to have such a server so all the morons who think it is okay to grind over somebody can go there and you all can plague each other on your own server.  And I actually USE to like the idea of having a PvE server to play in at one time as well...than seasonal servers made me QUICKLY change my mind.

It would be glorious to have the option of PVE only servers. There is nothing more irritating than someone PKing you while you are defenseless and trying to accomplish something. A lot of people do this only when it is obvious they can PK you easily at that moment, rather than challenge you when you can at least stand a chance and then they have the audacity to think they are PVP Kings/Queens. This has happened to me when I was trying to accomplish a kill quest but was so encumbered I could hardly move, (needed to earn silver, so looting everything), and while afk life skilling, and while trying to accomplish level 56 and was jumped by several members of the same guild. Season servers have proven it works.. just give the option to choose if you want PvP or not, simple.

Well, if you're looking for something that can be irritating, KSing is really efficient. Season Servers proved 2 things :

- ks paradise when the spot is popular

- but players are OK to group if it actually helps them reach their goal (weekly quest) 

Honestly, if you are strong enough to PK a person for attempting to KS on your spot, you should easily be able to kill mobs fast enough to keep that person from KSing your mobs, then there is no point for that person to stay there, since there are no mobs to kill. Anyone attempting to KS from someone's rotation who is strong enough to PK them for it,  would quickly be able to see they couldn't affectively KS mobs there anyway. (for the record, I dont go trying to KS from anyone) Or maybe some people are just considerate of other people and don't feel the need to PK or KS. IMO the main reason this happens on Season Servers is because you have limited time to get everything done. Plus everyone goes for the easier weeklies to get it done faster and achieve more of them. I also agree KSing is irritating.  Not only that, if you are at a grind spot and have been there doing your rotation and someone geared to the teeth decides they want your spot, so they just PK you, that IS essentially KSing your entire grind spot, when they could easily be doing rotations at a much harder location.

You guys just never gonna give up do you. 4 years and its STILL the same thing.

They said a billion times in yearly letters to players that this is not going to happen.

Just sit and think for 3 minutes and you'll understand why. The spots are NOT designed to be farmed without contest. You're ment to be contested. PvP is integrated to the game's core.

You will NOT be able to find a single mob in a PvE only channel. A PvE channel solves absolutely nothing, but creates more issues.

Just let it goooooooo...

PvP without consent is GRIEFING!   In real life it's called MURDER.

Lets cut through all the bias and BS and self-serving hand wringing and look at the reality.

Killing my character and destroying my wagon whilst training horses and trading is NOT PvP. It is a pathetic act by sad little morons who RUIN the game for hundreds of thousands if not millions of players, MOST of whom no longer bother to play BDO.

I am only just clinging to this game now because of the PvE in Season Servers. If PA have ANY intention of keeping BDO alive they need to provide the ENJOYABLE game the majority of us want.

PS  Save the vitriolic toxic replies these forums always spew up. I really don't give a toss for your puerile abuse.

The amount of people who are irrationally afraid of a pve server is rather strange. The thing is that BDO can and would survive with having a pve server considering there is no net loss, real or imagined. Too many people are coming up with imagined problems, however, which is hilarious.

You cant be sure that BDO will survive. Other games did not. And those other games had grind spots that can manage many people. BDO dont. Yet one PvE server with restrictions wont change the game probably, but none will be happy with one server.

And yea, many people want to keep the game the way it is, including the devs. So far.