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Forest Path Wagon crafting process
17 janv. 2024, 03:30 (UTC)
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Dernière modification : 17 janv. 2024, 03:30 (UTC)
# 1

Hello!
Can anybody confirm I do everything correctly?

I gathered and bought all materials required, put those in Grana storage and now I "craft" this wagon piece by piece, so its not like 1 item at a time like utencil for example, but every type of materials need to be "crafted INTO wagon" separately, and result of this sub-processes are not shows anywhere, and 4000 pieces of image also need to be "crafted into wagon" one piece at a time, and that time is ~20 minutes, so entire wagon is crafted for 20*4000=80,000 minutes which is 1333 hours = 55 days?

I this correct method of crafting and correct time calculations?

Dernière modification : 17 janv. 2024, 03:40 (UTC)
# 2

yes but im p sure that u can put multiple workers to work on it. u can also have workers from other cities work on it as long as the material needed is in that cities storage

Dernière modification : 17 janv. 2024, 04:52 (UTC)
# 3

It seems I cannot assign more than 5 (five) pieces of image to a worker at a time, is this normal?

There's 4000 (four thousands) of those pieces, so I must check every 1.5 hours workers at Grana if they finished tasks or no?

I wonder what is the logic behind making this process so tedious and cumbersome?

I mean, I already spent a lot of time of my only life gathering mats and some hundreds of millions buying what I cant gather in time, just ti realise I must babysit my workers every hour for two weeks to make a basic wagon that is useless on arrival because it still needs parts and enhancements...

So why exactly this craft is made like this? I just dont understand those koreans, why they cant let me play the game, why do I need to suffer from silly mechanics that make no sense.

I already paid for this game approximately double the amount of average montly sub, isnt it enough?

Dernière modification : 17 janv. 2024, 13:35 (UTC)
# 4

Only 5 does not seem normal. Usually it's 1 per stamina point the worker has, as long as the sum of tasks assigned across all workers doesn't exceed the remaining tasks for that item.

EDIT: I note the worker in your picture only has 5 stamina left.  If you feed them, they should be able to perform the number of tasks corresponding to their max stamina.

It's been a long time since I made my Peridot Wagon, though, so things are fuzzy. 

You can also assign workers from different towns, if the towns are connected and the required materials are in that worker's home storage.

Dernière modification : 18 janv. 2024, 08:53 (UTC)
# 5

Ok, feeding a worker to full before assigning to a task helps in not to babysit them every hour for two weeks.

Thanks for a hint!

Nevertheless, I fail to understand the logic and reason why this craft process is made like this.

Especially when land trading is dead, as players suggest.

I can explain only PA hates us and mocks us checking how low we are willing to fall in pursuit of 'best' things in this game.

If I knew this wagon crafting would be like this, I'd never even thought of making one.

Dernière modification : 18 janv. 2024, 11:17 (UTC)
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The wagon is a hard-to-get endgame item (and it used to be an expensive one), so it took a lot of time and crafting management effort to make one. But since the game progressed and silver income has risen, the wagon price does not reflect the crafting effort. Let's imagine it was now worth 4 or more billion, then the mats + crafting management effort would be worth it and you could buy the wagon at the MP. Currently, the profit it just about 500 million with VP, so people craft their own wagon and do not go through the hassle anymore.

Hence, there are two solutions: Make crafting simpler or increase the wagon price, so the crafting management feels more rewarding. I would be happier for the second option honestly, so my massive and extremely well-trained worker army retains some purpose :)

BTW yes, I also hope PA comes up with a better trading system in the rework they are doing right now, so making the top wagon and gear is going to be more valuable. Because even if they simplified crafting or increased the wagon price, it would lack purpose if having the wagon is pointless apart from training horses.

Dernière modification : 19 janv. 2024, 07:59 (UTC)
# 7

So, they do a rework of a rework of land trading they did earlier?

Interesting.

I wonder if they ever punish management or executives for obviously bad and harmful decisions?

Like, firing head of support team who is responsible of a policy of not admitting any problem ever and always blame us the customers.

So afraid to take responsibility.

Dernière modification : 19 janv. 2024, 08:51 (UTC)
# 8
On: Jan 19, 2024, 07:59 (UTC), Written by Sarjane

So, they do a rework of a rework of land trading they did earlier?

Interesting.

I wonder if they ever punish management or executives for obviously bad and harmful decisions?

Like, firing head of support team who is responsible of a policy of not admitting any problem ever and always blame us the customers.

So afraid to take responsibility.

Yep, they are going to try and design another trading system, the previous attempt was an elaborate one, but in the first few weeks it emerged that the system was quite a bit too much elaborate, so it did not take off so well :) No idea when it may launch, however.

BTW yeah, sometimes it might not be so easy to predict whether some content will take off well with the playerbase, but the trading rework demanded too much effort for too little reward, so this could be avoided with some more discussion before it was created :)

Dernière modification : 19 janv. 2024, 08:53 (UTC)
# 9

I believe they do not discuss anything with playerbase.

Dernière modification : 19 janv. 2024, 22:31 (UTC)
# 10
Am 18. Jan 2024, 08:53 (UTC), von Sarjane

Ok, feeding a worker to full before assigning to a task helps in not to babysit them every hour for two weeks.

Thanks for a hint!

Nevertheless, I fail to understand the logic and reason why this craft process is made like this.

Especially when land trading is dead, as players suggest.

I can explain only PA hates us and mocks us checking how low we are willing to fall in pursuit of 'best' things in this game.

If I knew this wagon crafting would be like this, I'd never even thought of making one.

You obviously never let workers produce any weapon or ship. Even a row boat is made like the wagon. Just with lower amounts and different materials.

If you connect Grana with Odylita and buy more houses for workers in these 2 cities, you can have your wagon done within 10 days. You just have to feed the workers and press "repeat all" from time to time, then each worker starts his next 15-2x pieces. And have materials in both cities storage ofc.

This system is required to prevent rich people to flood the market with wagons too easy buying out the materials.

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