Well, by chance i one-taped my Pen Debo Necklace 2 months ago....

Since then, i run in circle in Crypt, wasted 120k+ Crons (6 months patience) and... 7 hours straight now without a single Debo Bell... (WTF ?)

What i slowly realize is that one single Dieroll dictate the future of my IRL gaming life to a point i feel tired of it... Crypt doesn't give a lot of cash, Costumes come sooo slowly, Crons sooo expensive, ok i'm stuck in there for how long this time ?

All the things i did until now to build my family on this game were rewarding and i tested most of all aspects of Grind/Lifeskill

Sometimes it was boring, but i had more than one goal at a time....

The difference is that at End game you expect some mercy but no.... If you're not a twitcher or no-lifer, go suffer for months on a single spot because this time, even if you grind, you need Wayyy much more ressources and guess what, you still can end with a Pri coming from a TeT.... Hooray ^^

To a special note,  i really like all the wonderfull things PA did with this game... and they pay more attention to what players need now, thanks alot, but really, at least, stop the Madness with accessories.... lower the chance to downgrade... at least that, please, so i can finally do something else for a moment without thinking "ok, it's fun but i lost my time here, i can't get a Bell" ;-)

Well I heard about having PO on costumes and buying crons directly, also doing PIT, otherwise you'll be stuck for very long time. But again its about a GAME that you hardcore grind for years just to get end game items and after getting those you'll for sure leave this game in peace.

Its fun to play and have alot of things to do but pvp-pve-life skill required alot of Silver but you also have to make profit and be careful where this silver is invested, time to time can go up or stuck or maybe go down.

Tradeoff here its time, do you have time ti spent 8-12-16h/day for 1-5-10 years just for this game? Or maybe preffer to play 1-2h/day and live your life, choose wisley.

It's just crons. heh. The whole game should not be based on how many crons you can get. Like I told many people, I am so tilted about them that I won't PO to melt (tho I will melt what they give me heehh,) and you can tell who is buying etc because people are like oh look I got another upgrade. I got another upgrade! ONE TAP AGAIN. It's like ok haha. I ain't mad, but to be fair, people can whale DP hard. The one thing about AP is that there is some level of variance with accessories.

I wish crons didn't exist. Even stuff like caphra enhancement is preferrable to tapping @ low % with a chance of downgrade / break and using like 10,000 crons a try. I mean, if you convert that to real money (which you honestly should, because that's the model,) you realize how ridiculous that is. At some point, it just makes sense to stop trying so hard to gear. Take what ya can get. Buy stuff.

Nobody prol trying to hear this, but if you are at where the only thing you need is pen debo stuff, you are ALRIGHT to play the game now haha. YOU DON'T NEED to focus on progression anymore. It will come. If you don't enjoy just the 'game,' then it's a waste.

But yea, the enhance system gets rid of more people than full loot pvp, which is quite an accomplishment.

Well i wish for some thing they left it the way it was were you had to work hard to get to Guru for the people that did work to get it and now find it so easy sure does not make them feel very good

I mean, just honestly, this is what I was thinking too. I've been playing off and on since 2017, and I don't have the 301ap OP has. Every time I come back, I make some gains, play till I burn out, put BDO down, and then come back again. I always come back to BDO, because despite it's flaws and the very real frustrations, it is engaging in that it makes you work for your gains (less so now than in 2017, but the grind is still real).

Games that you can achieve your goals in quickly become boring quickly. I'm not poo-pooing OP or anybody else with legitimate gripes, simply stating a fact which we've all experienced. I too love games where I can quickly ramp up to Godmode. I also don't stick around for those games long-term, and very rarely come back to them again later.

I hate to admit it, but part of BDO's charm *IS* the frustration (Not like, some of the awful decisions PA makes too often, or frustrating QoL stuff, but the frustration stemming from the base mechanic of upgrades)! I kind of think BDO is made for putting down and coming back to later. Hence "value packs," etc., and not a sub system.

tl;dr, I kind of agree with the post I quoted, and I'm legitimately surprised it has more downvotes than upvotes. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Because we are not done with palworld and just like bdo, as soon as there is a content update, the players will return to it. The downvotes must be because he did not understand the main topic which is not here to talk about this game.

Im a beta player and Ive never had a pen acc succeed ...hell i think ive only ever had 3-4 armor/weapon pens go off.  Your time and effort is not rewarded in this game. Your only "good" if RNG says so. Truely wish i never picked up this game to begin with.

I am happy with me not grinding and not beeing a slave to the game :)
I LOVE THE PITY REWARDS!
Love the events and i love the freedom of the game!
I can go pvp in SOA!
I see no problem i love the game i dont know what you expect...

Well, they listened to you apparently ;) 

This might be a somewhat unpopular opinion, but according to your sentiment above, which I relate to, it is PvP that gives the ultimate form of "reward" in this game.  Particularly, uncapped PvP.  Back in the day, it was GvG.  GvG was actually popping off.  My small guild was always in GvG back in the day.  All the guilds I've eveer been in -- ranging from small, to medium, to siege -- always had GvGs up.  Now, GvG is practically dead.  They tried to recoup some of the loss with guild battles and war of the roses, but these are dead too.  Node war is also a rewarding aspect.  Uncapped.  Basically, when you grind your ass off for gear, getting better at your calss, there is incomparable reward when those gains translate into better PvP performance.

This "reward" is lost in today's game.  The sense of reward for grinding the same spot for slightly more silver, at least to me, is expoentially less rewarding than the sense of reward that tangible boosts in PvP performance give.  And I'm not even a "PvPer".  I consider myself "PvX", but I have always mostly PvE'd in BDO.  In my opinion, PvP is the reward.  And now, PvP is, essentially, dead.  Which takes away from the replay value of BDO.  At least until you reach end-game gear...because it's like....why do I even need gear.  For RBF?  RBF???