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Olun ring piece / forced group play
14 avr. 2024, 22:45 (UTC)
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Dernière modification : 14 avr. 2024, 22:45 (UTC)
# 1

Elbberp

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Hi,

I have put in my time in Black Desert since 2017, and like other Korean MMOs that I've played since the early 2000s, the main thing is that I can log on and do SOLO content, not have to wait around for groups or try to create group content.

I have 4/5 of the Merchant Ring pieces, and lack the Oluns piece. This is locked behind group content, which I do not partake in. Also the trade method to obtain it (although maths told me it would take 20 years on average) was removed with the trade removal, which also had a great loss of silver per day to do efficiently. I do feel it is neccesary to include a soliatary method to obtain it.

Many players, like myself, will not partake in group content, especially when the community has decided you need to be perfect and use elixir rotations and other things, which seems to exlcude the average player from joining.

When will a solo option be arranged for it.. or at least during the treasure event that changes spots for obtainable potion pieces, also include Merchant Ring pieces?

Don't feel I'm alone in regards to an insanely long treasure piece needing a solo method, group content adds other obstacles and time constraints. You can't just log in and hit stuff for the time you have free...

Does it need to change, or do I?

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 05:14 (UTC)
# 2

I get your frustration but the group grind is what sets this treasure apart from others and gives it its rarity. And I think the fact that oluns is one of the best money spots (bother normal and lantern) makes more than up for it being a group spot. The only thing I can kind get behind is the fact that you have to do a full hour. But I am completely against olun piece being grind able on a solo spot cuz it would just ruin the rings rarity.

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 06:46 (UTC)
# 3

for sure would be needed a double option (even if just during some event). Everything going toward simplification this isn't a mistery anymore (who would imagine this rain of debo just 6 months ago?) so at this point not even so much sense keep this barrier still up

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 06:51 (UTC)
# 4
On: Apr 15, 2024, 05:14 (UTC), Written by seiinaru

I get your frustration but the group grind is what sets this treasure apart from others and gives it its rarity. And I think the fact that oluns is one of the best money spots (bother normal and lantern) makes more than up for it being a group spot. The only thing I can kind get behind is the fact that you have to do a full hour. But I am completely against olun piece being grind able on a solo spot cuz it would just ruin the rings rarity.

Pearl Abyss dislikes changing the idea of existing content, they only can add a new one.  Merchant ring becomes more accessible because more and more people have higher gear.  Maybe in the future devs will add solo spot for this piece, but I doubt it. In the best case it can be like with padix, just change oluns to duo or solo spot.  

And solo spot wouldn't make the Merchant ring less rare.  For example, you have a middle piece of Elvieyed on solo spot > Thornwood.  Go and take it, it's so easy =)))  Just make the same with Oluns piece and everyone will be happy. 

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 08:22 (UTC)
# 5

How dare they implement group content in this Massively MULTIPLAYER Online RPG. What were they thinking.

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 08:32 (UTC)
# 6

If many players have the same issue (and can't group with players who want perfect elixir rotation), can't they group together? 

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 08:35 (UTC)
# 7
On: Apr 15, 2024, 08:32 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

If many players have the same issue (and can't group with players who want perfect elixir rotation), can't they group together? 

I realyl agree on this. That whole min-maxing attitude is just dog anyways. it's a game. people are supposed to have fun and enjoy it not use it as a sbustitute for a fulltime job at work. like who cares if you get a bit less trash, it's about the fun - not the efficiency. I've never understood why so many people in this game are 100% tryharding.

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 09:22 (UTC)
# 8

I would not blame the min-maxxing attitude by itself, I'd blame its presence in BDO. Initially this game was not designed to let you do this kind of things, but with the apparition of pve stats, streamers and their max efficiency grind, garmoth website results, Marni and their solo play, players developed a image of "200% efficiency BDO grind or you're a loser" and devs were unable to prevent it. 

But basically, when BDO started, we were not looking for this kind of efficiency, we were trying to keep a spot and we were ready to group for that. That's a whole mindset which changed along the years. Now the notoriously ungrateful mainstream solo pve binge-players will be happy, yepee.

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 09:30 (UTC)
# 9

I'm sorry that's not forced group content. It's an optional item most likely you only want to link over and over in chat. The money you lose grinding those spots for probably never equals out for the money bonus. Forced group content is like FF14 where they put dungeons and hard instanced encounters as part of the storyline where if you don't do it you can't progress to the next zone. And like someone said if you gated behind an elixir rot then make your own group with no reqs like that.

Dernière modification : 15 avr. 2024, 12:55 (UTC)
# 10

Just to clarify, my main problem is the group play it's self. If I cared about the money gain I wouldn't do treasure items. I like to complete things at my own pace, I don't play my class, or the game, in the most efficient way, so have an anxiety about underperforming for a group, whereas doing things solo I don't have to worry about any of that.

I don't use elixirs anywhere in the game, so it was just another hoop to jump through, in regards to the group stuff and with their accessibility on the market, the majority are purchasable now and are not as much of a problem as I had convinced myself they were.

I have done the potions, map, the compass, marni's great assistant title (all marni boxes in game), 4/5 ring pieces and am currently working on the telescope. Also at 699/700 possible energy, only missing 178 more titles for that completion, too.

I find having those kinds of focus goals keeps me playing, whereas money per hour / money spots are generally boring after the initial stage of learning somewhere new. Theres nothing exciting around the corner (e.g the rare treasure piece).

That being said, I only want an alternative, I don't think Olun should become a solo zone or anything like that, group play is important for people and a lot of people find Olun one of the more fun zones in the game because they can play with other people.

I would even suggest being able to trade the other 4 pieces for this specific piece. Some way around the group play element.

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