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Guide d'installation

1 Exécutez BlackDesert_Installer_NAEU.exe pour installer le lanceur Black Desert.

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dUngEons DoN't belOnG in bDO!
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Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 11:46 (UTC)
# 21

As long as the rewards match the ap/dp requirements that they have on both difficulties it will be popular. People have been clamoring for years for some co-op content where they can play with their guildmates or friends. Give the 280ap/340dp difficulty comparable rewards to the hadum grind and you'll have no shortage of groups running it.

 

I expect to see some exclusive rewards tied to it,maybe not on release but down the line. Maybe not even gear or mats,something like Orzeca maybe. Some goal to achieve in the dungeon.

Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 13:06 (UTC)
# 22
On: May 22, 2021, 11:46 (UTC), Written by Atorax

As long as the rewards match the ap/dp requirements that they have on both difficulties it will be popular. People have been clamoring for years for some co-op content where they can play with their guildmates or friends. Give the 280ap/340dp difficulty comparable rewards to the hadum grind and you'll have no shortage of groups running it.

 

I expect to see some exclusive rewards tied to it,maybe not on release but down the line. Maybe not even gear or mats,something like Orzeca maybe. Some goal to achieve in the dungeon.

now the question if the reward correctly match "grind spot" ( which would be good as it would be a real alternative content to thoses -run in circle until you die- grind spot ) is : Do thoses PA guys arent going to be aid with things like

- dungeon run limit per day

- Few instance only aviable for everyone, which would lead to hours of queues = totaly aid

 

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Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 15:14 (UTC)
# 24
On: May 22, 2021, 14:27 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Dungeon in this game are fine they should of added them years ago. But we have morons in here that see Dungeon and insteadly think there instanced dungeons. A dungeon doesn't need to be instance to be a dungeon. Look at Mortal Online, Everquest, SWG all games with open world non instanced dungeons. But ah what can you do when there idiots that don't understand the basic definitions of simple words.

If dungeons are not "instanced" then they are just the same thing as the other 4 dungeons already in the game, Hystria, Aakman, Kratuga, and Sycraia.  Which the "WE NEED DUNGEON" trolls were saying that they were not dungeons.  If the new "dungeon" is instanced it will be dead content unless it is needed for progression.  The only way they will get people to play the new dungeon more than once or twice since it's going to be a "puzzle game" is to make the content mandatory.  Even worse they have a shitty LFG system, and you need to have 5 people that want to do it.  Yeah no way that content is not going to be dead unless like I said, it becomes forced content.

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Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 15:40 (UTC)
# 25
On: May 22, 2021, 15:14 (UTC), Written by Werbs

If dungeons are not "instanced" then they are just the same thing as the other 4 dungeons already in the game, Hystria, Aakman, Kratuga, and Sycraia. 

But you know those areas aren't dungoen but sure make up BS to justify your one sided made up my way or the highway mind set of stupidity Werb. If you want your stupid changes to occur in BDO well to bad PA not going to develop the game sololy what you want werb your better off making your own crappy game that no one wants to play.

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Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 16:28 (UTC)
# 26
On: May 22, 2021, 15:14 (UTC), Written by Werbs

  If the new "dungeon" is instanced it will be dead content unless it is needed for progression.  The only way they will get people to play the new dungeon more than once or twice since it's going to be a "puzzle game" is to make the content mandatory. 

Not at all, somes players will certainly very welcome content diversity and having another choice than runing in circle killing mob until exhaustion.

Ofc, that's as long as that dungeon is at least as interesting as a grind spot of the -same GS range- regarding reward, no one is going to lie, it need a incentive even more in such grindfest environment.

 

No need to make things mandatory to have them played.

 

 

Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 16:58 (UTC)
# 27
On: May 22, 2021, 10:37 (UTC), Written by TRNFloyd

Unpopular opinion: For it to not be DoA content; the rewards should match, or be better than, grinding at 250 AP and 280 AP spots for the duration that the dungeon should take. I support the "greater" part of that, and that they should make this content be the thing people aim on improving their gear for(PvE-wise anyways). Idc if its hard content with a lot of bullshittery mechanics in it, just as long as its rewarding for the time investment in more than just the pixel design of the content.

Typical PA practice: if something is good (and better then mobs grind), then we will nerf to such an extent that no one uses it anymore: gatekeepers, field bosses, cooking, bartering, etc.

Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 17:05 (UTC)
# 28
On: May 22, 2021, 16:26 (UTC), Written by Unknownn

Not at all, somes players will certainly very welcome content diversity and having another choice than runing in circle killing mob until exhaustion.

Ofc, that's as long as that dungeon is at least as interesting as a grind spot of the -same GS range- regarding reward, no one is going to lie, it need a incentive even more in such grindfest environment.

 

No need to make things mandatory to have them played.

 

 

Umm, actually yeah you need to make an incentive to have people do them.  Look at Gyphin no one grinds there, it's the only 5 man spot in the game, yet because it's not a good grind spot for silver, despite having some unique mechanics, no one does it.  The only 5 man content that gets done is scroll groups, and that is because there is a massive incentive to do them.

 

BDO has several major flaws when it comes to grouping.  The vast majority of the "party spots" are inefficent when compared to solo.  There is a horrible Looking For Party system that is not advertised in the slightest.  If 1 person doesn't pull their weight it brings everyone down to the lowest player's level.  Since you can't check your party members Gear or at the very least Gear Score partying with random people is more often than not at your own detriment.  No matter what Party content makes sure at least 1 member of the party is getting screwed.

 

A 5 man group dungeon has too many fatal flaws to last more than a week.  This is not pesimism this is realism.  

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Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 17:24 (UTC)
# 29
On: May 22, 2021, 17:05 (UTC), Written by Werbs

BDO has several major flaws when it comes to grouping.  The vast majority of the "party spots" are inefficent when compared to solo.  There is a horrible Looking For Party system that is not advertised in the slightest.  If 1 person doesn't pull their weight it brings everyone down to the lowest player's level.  Since you can't check your party members Gear or at the very least Gear Score partying with random people is more often than not at your own detriment.  No matter what Party content makes sure at least 1 member of the party is getting screwed.

I was talking about it. This is why people DON'T WANT party content. You divide people into better and worse, typical racist. 
You don't have xxx AP? Go away "noob". So lower ap players  have no chance to play in the party.
Which is why all party content should also contain solo option. I remember dungeons from one mmo game (RIFT?). Same dungeon but scaled from solo up to 5 party.

Dernière modification : 22 mai 2021, 17:23 (UTC)
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On: May 22, 2021, 17:05 (UTC), Written by Werbs

Umm, actually yeah you need to make an incentive to have people do them. 

Read again what you implied ( = you need to make that somehow mandatory ), ready again what i've said ( no need to be mandatory, as long as its as interesting regarding reward, without doubt a lot of ppl will enjoy the content diversity )

 

 

 

On: May 22, 2021, 17:05 (UTC), Written by Werbs

BDO has several major flaws when it comes to grouping.  The vast majority of the "party spots" are inefficent when compared to solo.  There is a horrible Looking For Party system that is not advertised in the slightest.  If 1 person doesn't pull their weight it brings everyone down to the lowest player's level.  Since you can't check your party members Gear or at the very least Gear Score partying with random people is more often than not at your own detriment.  No matter what Party content makes sure at least 1 member of the party is getting screwed.

 

A 5 man group dungeon has too many fatal flaws to last more than a week.  This is not pesimism this is realism.  

You speak about issue regarding grouping for grindspot, beside a correct "lfg" what you speak about doesnt apply to the "dungeon", unless they are that bad devs and copy paste thoses "bad grind spot group setting regarding reward" which still would be very surprising. PA are pretty bad at basic gamedesign, but i like to think they are going to be this dumb

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