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I predict this game will die this year.
28. Feb 2021, 03:17 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 11:49 (UTC)
# 51
On: Mar 1, 2021, 08:18 (UTC), Written by Smileybones

Let's just meet a year from now in this topic and see what tune OP sings.

The tune will likely be something along the lines of 

"You didnt read what I wrote or write what I read,you didnt see what I heard,feel what I smelt" with a bunch of "im done replying to you" but still keeps replying with a full page of who gives a sh*t 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 14:10 (UTC)
# 52
On: Mar 1, 2021, 07:50 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Simley opinion is simply. Not read what being said but say people are wrong when he has no idea what people are posting. So really if you share that exact same opinion which is to say people are wrong but not actually read what they say why should I reply to you?

 

Infact the reason I ignore simley is because he decided at one point that it acceptable behavior on these forums is to literally go from post to post I made not even read what I was posting and just say I was a meme and everything I say is wrong. So if you agree with such childish behavior than ya I guess I can ignore you on these forums as well.

 

But you know the fact that your assuming what I want for wizard goes to show me that you actually haven't read any of my post in those wizard threads. Infact your now basically doing the same thing Simley did, which is targeting me in completely unrelated threads to insult me and say I'm wrong when you clearly haven't read anything I posted in here. So you know I guess I already have my answer as to if you agree that childish behavior is acceptable on these forums. Just like Stealthe as well. Which BTW is completely against these forums TOS but don't worry PA doesn't actually care about enforcing those rules so feel free to brake them as much as you want.

 

An in the end your logic is just wrong anyway. Kuno one worst grinding classes in this game only class that worse at grinding is tamer, she also one of the worst classes for any form of group PVP, and she only average in 1v1, but you demand all her CCs be removed, damage be cut in half, and SA be gutted into an unplayable state why exactly? Oh I know cause your bias.

You spent all that text and didnt respond constructive to my examples as to why your predictions of the game dying in a year is heresay - nor did you reply to my examples as to how witchards can be toned down while also explaining as to why theyre not the picture your giving them in the grand scale of things. All you did was to talk about how hurt you are by others calling you out, while suddenly giving your opinion on the kuno class (which I dont see related here). You also put word in my mouth by stating that I want kuno or tamer nerfed which I havent, also unrelated to your own topic. To top it off, you even go as to say you're considering ignoring me based on this.

 

This is where I further point out your lack of valid data, with troll-like-tactics where you topic hop and deflect constructive feedback. While this is something you may enjoy to get attention it doesnt help your case, unless your primary goal was to cause a stirr, and in such case you have been very much successful.

Lv Privat
Montana
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 14:28 (UTC)
# 53
On: Mar 1, 2021, 04:25 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

But one key issues with your statement I need to say is. Without PVP does BDO have anything beside a single player envirnoment? 99% of grinding zones punish you for grinding it in a group, imperial crates turn in punishes you for logging in and trying to turn them in during peek hours of the game, gathering, cooking, fishing, bartaring, trading have zero element in which you can work with other players, and quests can not be cleared in groups. Really if you ask me BDO PVE is already nothing more than single player only content. The few piece of group orinated PVE content that is in BDO is outdated dead content that no one does and the devs haven't updated in years. So really if you turn off the ingame chat and only played BDO PVE content you will not encounter a single time were you're forced or even rewarded for doing content with another player. So Why would Crimson Desert's more single player PVE content not be what BDO's PVE content is already?

 

Also is BDO really making PA a lot of money? If I had to guess you like many other players in BDO only buy a value pack and that it (I know many players that doesn't even do that.) that 10-15 dollars each month per player which can be a lot, but a single whale has been know to invest 1-10k dollars a month on this game upgrading their gear. If I had to guess whales make up more than 50% of PA's income on this game, but want to know the current state of that income as of now? Well it simple whales are now sitting at BIS gear at full PEN C20. So why would a whale keep investing 1-10k dollars a month on the game when they have everything in the game that can be bought? Basically what it boil down to is BDO's #1 source of income has run dry. An if you knew PA background at all you'd know their last game was quickly abandoned once profit margins started to decline. PA doesn't care about active player #s they only care about monthly income or at-least that what they've shown with their last game.

 

As it also stand right now PA has 3 MMORPGs underdevelopment 1 is planned to release by the end of this year. An last year they bought out CCP the makers of Eve Online a game that generates more players and income than BDO. I simple can't see a future in which PA even tries to keep BDO alive. It is currently their 4th source of income right now but also their most expensive to maintan and currently if my theory is correct the only one with dropping profit margins. If PA didn't already own multiple sources of income an weren't in the process of developing 3 brand new MMORPGs than I could see this game surviving. But with the current state of this game and current plans PA has I can't see any future were they devote anytime in improving this game. As it is PA plan for this year is to release as many new classes as they can not for the sake of improving the game, but because BDO's largest source of income now that the whales stopped swipping is selling character bound items. Best way to do that is too encourage players to make new characters thus a brand new class for each new season.

 

Oh and side note now the BDO self published there no one to stop PA if they decided to shut down the game's servers permanently tomorrow. Since they now own the server rights to the game. Not saying they will but you know food for thought for a possible reason to why PA actually wanted to start self publishing every version of BDO.



And that´s in where the problems lie it´s all speculations you may  dislike BDO you may hate the pvp. I mean one of the reason I still play EVE is that no other mmo I played has such a good and fun pvp that is acessable with out being level 50-120 with epic gear or special pvp gear you need to grind for. In eve you can be 1 day old and jump in to pvp and own people with out the need to have special gear. 

So telling people that BDO might die becuse it has no pvp and shitty single player PVE well by does standard the game would have not lasted a year. 

Still in BDO you have allot of things you can do with a guild like World bosses, Gather, and kill quest you can do as a guild it may not have raids and such but still it has something.  And what I read and heard Crimson seams to not even have such online plans to have guilds and such so still BDO is the option to go for people that want that.  Pearl abyss will maybe not listen to the community and fix shit but they aint stupid to make a new mmo to kill BDO that may still make them money. 

We have not gotten anything this year but well this year has just started but down below you can see Q1 2020 Revenue and from there you can give and take how much they are making. Well I don´t think BDO is not doing that bad and will proboly not just outright go from making allot to make so little they need to close down.

Also to note no eve online does not have more players than BDO not even by a long shot not even close what so ever as I told you I have played eve for 14 years now and I will tell you Star wars the old republic even has more players than eve and if you check the finacial report EVE online does not even make half of what BDO is making.  Reason they got baught up is becomes EVE online was not doing that well almost to the point of if pearl abyss had not bught them eve would proboly have to shut down in 2021-2023.  
EVE online has over 8 million acount´s made but a daylie active players base around 20-30k  or around 300k a month which is not allot. 


Black desert have around 10million regitred accounts and acording to some stats an active player base arund 800k people a month which is 500k more than eve online.  


Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 14:30 (UTC)
# 54
On: Mar 1, 2021, 14:17 (UTC), Written by SwordBreaker



And that´s in where the problems lie it´s all speculations you may  dislike BDO you may hate the pvp. I mean one of the reason I still play EVE is that no other mmo I played has such a good and fun pvp that is acessable with out being level 50-120 with epic gear or special pvp gear you need to grind for. In eve you can be 1 day old and jump in to pvp and own people with out the need to have special gear. 

So telling people that BDO might die becuse it has no pvp and shitty single player PVE well by does standard the game would have not lasted a year. 

Still in BDO you have allot of things you can do with a guild like World bosses, Gather, and kill quest you can do as a guild it may not have raids and such but still it has something.  And what I read and heard Crimson seams to not even have such online plans to have guilds and such so still BDO is the option to go for people that want that.  Pearl abyss will maybe not listen to the community and fix shit but they aint stupid to make a new mmo to kill BDO that may still make them money. 

We have not gotten anything this year but well this year has just started but down below you can see Q1 2020 Revenue and from there you can give and take how much they are making. Well I don´t think BDO is not doing that bad and will proboly not just outright go from making allot to make so little they need to close down.

Also to note no eve online does not have more players than BDO not even by a long shot not even close what so ever as I told you I have played eve for 14 years now and I will tell you Star wars the old republic even has more players than eve and if you check the finacial report EVE online does not even make half of what BDO is making.  Reason they got baught up is becomes EVE online was not doing that well almost to the point of if pearl abyss had not bught them eve would proboly have to shut down in 2021-2023.  
EVE online has over 8 million acount´s made but a daylie active players base around 20-30k  or around 300k a month which is not allot. 


Black desert have around 10million regitred accounts and acording to some stats an active player base arund 800k people a month which is 500k more than eve online.  


yeah tl.dr they bought a dying game, and eve's old owner was pretty happy that he finally found a fool, who is willing to buy that crap lol

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 14:32 (UTC)
# 55

If you want to speculate how a game is doing try to find finacial reports and other stats that can give you and understanding how well a game is doing. Don´t speculate on how a mmo is doing by stating it sucks it has bad pvp and new mmo´s is comining out becuse year 2021 and 2022 will have allot of new mmo coming and planned maybe 10 new mmo´s this year or more.  And allot of older mmos dies. Like this year Defiance and defiance 2050, Twin saga, Eden eternal will be shut down.

What I think Rift if more likely to be shut down this year than BDO. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 15:36 (UTC)
# 56

OwO this game dies really slowly must be painfull D= ... okay stop think a game will die its still alive !

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 16:15 (UTC)
# 57
On: Mar 1, 2021, 14:30 (UTC), Written by LewdShai

yeah tl.dr they bought a dying game, and eve's old owner was pretty happy that he finally found a fool, who is willing to buy that crap lol

You can say that again and their laest idead in which they make new players rent skills and yes im not kidding their plan to help new players is to pay a sum of money to rent skill so they can try out new things with out having to wait for the skills to finish. 

That is a move of desperation if you ask me becuse eve is doing so badly that they started to sell skills points and now plan to start so you can rent skills for real money.  If EVE was doing good and had more players than BDO then they would not need to do it.  One of many reason EVE online went F2P is the same reason Tera and SWTOR went F2P and that was to save the game from going under. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 16:32 (UTC)
# 58
On: Feb 28, 2021, 17:31 (UTC), Written by Vulpin

Than why you in this thread? Why even comment on a thread but ignore everything the OP of the thread is saying. Point and cause example #20 here. How could you possible know what a thread was create for if you don't actually read what being said? See how you clowns are just completely contradicting your selves here? No you don't cause you aren't reading what being said.

im in this thread to read what everyone else is saying not OP because its been said a million times, Why are YOU here?

Also theres a thing called TITLE, idk maybe if you read what you posted about the game being dead in a year thats all I needed to read. No sense in reading the rest because its usually nothing but a rant about the state of the game and why you hate it. I don't need to waste my time reading something the title simply gives away. Did you forget what you titled your post? xD

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 17:30 (UTC)
# 59

I predict this game will add PVE servers or a PVE mode. It will have a huge upswing when it does, and new stable income. Then again, if they wait to long. They will have dried up their PVP whales, and the PVE whales will be onto other games.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Mrz 2021, 17:30 (UTC)
# 60

I predict this game will add PVE servers or a PVE mode. It will have a huge upswing when it does, and new stable income. Then again, if they wait to long. They will have dried up their PVP whales, and the PVE whales will be onto other games.

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