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Let's talk about it once for all.
20. Aug 2021, 15:49 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 15:49 (UTC)
# 1

Since the class reboot's annoucement, I'm seeing a ton of thread about FPS and a class.

It's pissing me off.

To make it clear, warrior isn't the only class which is dependant to FPS, Tamer is, sorceress is, Berserk is and ranger is. So stop talking only about warrior because you don't even understand what you are talking about.
You don't even know what it is to play a class which is too dependant about FPS, you can't even understand how we are tired to always be at X FPS with low setting to be decent in PVP and PVE. New classes don't have this problem. All warriors, or tamers or rangers, or sorcs, or berskerks would like to play in remaster with any FPS' problems  like new classes do.

Secondly, a lot of players are blaming players like me to have a good set up for games like BDO.
My set up :
I7 11700KF
RTX 2070 8Go
16 RAM
2 SSD, one of 1To, one of 250 Go
1 M.2 of 250 Go
Monitor MSI Optix MAG271R 165 Hz

A lot them are litteraly crying because with a good GPU, a good CPU and good monitor, players like me can have 165 FPS, because the monitor can show 165 FPS, and because your CPU and your GPU give the enough power to get that. (And don't forget, even if you have 165 FPS, you always have drop in game, if I don't move I'm at 165, if I start to grind at SE or Kama, I'm at 90-100 in remaster, and I can feel the difference on my class, which is not normal).
And I'm going to be rude. Even me, a student which has to pay an expensive school can find money and time to buy good components.

Just stop complain. You can't blame a guy who bought good components for his computer to play games. I did that, and it wasn't only for BDO, it's for all games. A lot of you are complaining, and I ask you this question "And you ? what is your setup ? Because you are complaining for have 30 FPS all the time" So many of you have a shit PC who is older than six years on a game like BDO which is asking a DECENT PC.
Then don't complain.

So many of you are also playing in remaster even if your PC can't run it correctly. And I reply "Then go in low settings", you are answering "No I PrEfEr To PlAy In ReMaStEr bEcAuSe iF I WaNt To PlAy An UgLy GaMe, I PrEfEr To PlAy WoW".
Then don't complain.

When I also say "Then you should start to invest into a good PC, it will help you to play in remaster and to play other good games", so many of you are saying "No!! I won't do it, I don't want to invest money in that !! It's useless, I have better stuff to buy".
Then don't complain.

So many of you are trashtalking players who optimized their game. BDO allows you to play in optimal mode. BDO allows you to modify Nvidia / AMD setting to make a you game better. But do you even know that you also do it ? Do you even know that ? Seems like no or maybe you just want to stupid and childish.
You can't blame them for having taken their time to optimize the game.
Then don't complain.

I don't understand why you are so toxic and why you are complaining about something you also do. And yes, I would like to see an FPS fix without touching classes. I love my warrior and the gameplay, I don't want to see him destroy by stupid choices that Pearl Abyss can take just to creat another brainless class.

PS : English isn't my main language, so if you see any mistake, just inform me and I'll modify. Some of you are spitting when there is a mistake, it doesn't help and that's disgusting. It's better to help because a person like me won't do the same mistake.

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Ophinoie
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 16:01 (UTC)
# 2

It affects everyone. If you have low fps, you literately see the game with like a half second delay.

Ever saw a clip where a player jumped in a killed a group of 5+ players while they was literately like afk? Those players mostlikely didn't even had that guy rendered on their screen....

fps give a heavy advantage as the potato servers can't keep up with the fast moving classes.

 

But it's unlikely that they will ever fix it, deal with it.

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Hnnie
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 16:07 (UTC)
# 3
On: Aug 20, 2021, 15:49 (UTC), Written by Anvorka

Since the class reboot's annoucement, I'm seeing a ton of thread about FPS and a class.

It's pissing me off.

To make it clear, warrior isn't the only class which is dependant to FPS, Tamer is, sorceress is, Berserk is and ranger is. So stop talking only about warrior because you don't even understand what you are talking about.
You don't even know what it is to play a class which is too dependant about FPS, you can't even understand how we are tired to always be at X FPS with low setting to be decent in PVP and PVE. New classes don't have this problem. All warriors, or tamers or rangers, or sorcs, or berskerks would like to play in remaster with any FPS' problems  like new classes do.

Secondly, a lot of players are blaming players like me to have a good set up for games like BDO.
My set up :
I7 11700KF
RTX 2070 8Go
16 RAM
2 SSD, one of 1To, one of 250 Go
1 M.2 of 250 Go
Monitor MSI Optix MAG271R 165 Hz

A lot them are litteraly crying because with a good GPU, a good CPU and good monitor, players like me can have 165 FPS, because the monitor can show 165 FPS, and because your CPU and your GPU give the enough power to get that. (And don't forget, even if you have 165 FPS, you always have drop in game, if I don't move I'm at 165, if I start to grind at SE or Kama, I'm at 90-100 in remaster, and I can feel the difference on my class, which is not normal).
And I'm going to be rude. Even me, a student which has to pay an expensive school can find money and time to buy good components.

Just stop complain. You can't blame a guy who bought good components for his computer to play games. I did that, and it wasn't only for BDO, it's for all games. A lot of you are complaining, and I ask you this question "And you ? what is your setup ? Because you are complaining for have 30 FPS all the time" So many of you have a shit PC who is older than six years on a game like BDO which is asking a DECENT PC.
Then don't complain.

So many of you are also playing in remaster even if your PC can't run it correctly. And I reply "Then go in low settings", you are answering "No I PrEfEr To PlAy In ReMaStEr bEcAuSe iF I WaNt To PlAy An UgLy GaMe, I PrEfEr To PlAy WoW".
Then don't complain.

When I also say "Then you should start to invest into a good PC, it will help you to play in remaster and to play other good games", so many of you are saying "No!! I won't do it, I don't want to invest money in that !! It's useless, I have better stuff to buy".
Then don't complain.

So many of you are trashtalking players who optimized their game. BDO allows you to play in optimal mode. BDO allows you to modify Nvidia / AMD setting to make a you game better. But do you even know that you also do it ? Do you even know that ? Seems like no or maybe you just want to stupid and childish.
You can't blame them for having taken their time to optimize the game.
Then don't complain.

I don't understand why you are so toxic and why you are complaining about something you also do. And yes, I would like to see an FPS fix without touching classes. I love my warrior and the gameplay, I don't want to see him destroy by stupid choices that Pearl Abyss can take just to creat another brainless class.

PS : English isn't my main language, so if you see any mistake, just inform me and I'll modify. Some of you are spitting when there is a mistake, it doesn't help and that's disgusting. It's better to help because a person like me won't do the same mistake.

if they want a game that players would recommend to others to play they need to fix fps affecting character performance or at least bring it in line decently.


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Seeryus
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 16:07 (UTC)
# 4
Écrit le : 20 août 2021, 16:01 (UTC), par : PlasticDK

It affects everyone. If you have low fps, you literately see the game with like a half second delay.

Ever saw a clip where a player jumped in a killed a group of 5+ players while they was literately like afk? Those players mostlikely didn't even had that guy rendered on their screen....

fps give a heavy advantage as the potato servers can't keep up with the fast moving classes.

 

But it's unlikely that they will ever fix it, deal with it.

I don't deny that. But there are other factors, and that my thread. Some players are crying about stuff they can do. That's what I said in my post.

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Ophinoie
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 16:13 (UTC)
# 5
Écrit le : 20 août 2021, 16:07 (UTC), par : Seeryus

if they want a game that players would recommend to others to play they need to fix fps affecting character performance or at least bring it in line decently.


They won't because they can't, in the begining they wanted to cap FPS at 60 FPS but, it's not fair for players with a good set up. But it's also not fair for players with a bad setup.

But deal with it.

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Ophinoie
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 18:18 (UTC)
# 6
On: Aug 20, 2021, 16:12 (UTC), Written by Anvorka

They won't because they can't, in the begining they wanted to cap FPS at 60 FPS but, it's not fair for players with a good set up. But it's also not fair for players with a bad setup.

But deal with it.

The game developer is literally telling you that they are in fact going to "deal with it". 

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/808763834466697217/877886942488973352/unknown.png?width=486&height=595

The "fast frame cancellation" part.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 18:09 (UTC)
# 7
On: Aug 20, 2021, 16:12 (UTC), Written by Anvorka

They won't because they can't, in the begining they wanted to cap FPS at 60 FPS but, it's not fair for players with a good set up. But it's also not fair for players with a bad setup.

But deal with it.

Fighting games are capped at 60fps. No one complains. 

 
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 18:26 (UTC)
# 8
On: Aug 20, 2021, 16:12 (UTC), Written by Anvorka

They won't because they can't, in the begining they wanted to cap FPS at 60 FPS but, it's not fair for players with a good set up. But it's also not fair for players with a bad setup.

But deal with it.

 

 

I have a 5950x and a 3090, and a 120hz ultrawide 3440x1440 monitor.  I get great performance.  

  

But I don't think your argument is correct - saying "deal with it" may be true, but it is not ideal at all. Those of us who have accepted a subpar situation should not be offended when others rightly criticize & question this subpar situation. The situation is bad, and it is right to question it and express concern with it.   

  

Even in other modern competitive games where high FPS is beneficial, it is only beneficial due to visual latency and smoothness. The game engine of other popular games does not literally change how a character operates, how quickly you can move, how fast you can attack.  This is an outdated and bad aspect of BDO compared to other games.  

  

200+ FPS should make the game stable, fluid, and smooth. 

200+ FPS should not make your character move faster, turn faster, attack faster.  

  

Character movement/animation should be competely separate from FPS.  This is a paradigm that is accepted throughout the rest of the industry. Only in older games, and games that are considered poorly coded, is this sort of thing still an issue.   

  

Unfortunately, the BDO engine was not designed to decouple animations from FPS, so this is not an easy change to ask for. As I understand it, it is basically an impossible change that requires so much effort from the ground up that they would effectively be making a whole new engine of the game; changing the entire core of it all; it's just not feasible unless we're asking for "BDO 2."    

  

I wouldn't hate a cap at some amount of FPS like 120, 144, 165 -- I don't know if 200+ FPS even has any further benefits. I do know 60 FPS feels very different in character speed & responsiveness from 120 FPS. 

  

 

 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 20. Aug 2021, 19:16 (UTC)
# 9
On: Aug 20, 2021, 18:26 (UTC), Written by Veltas

 

 

I have a 5950x and a 3090, and a 120hz ultrawide 3440x1440 monitor.  I get great performance.  

  

But I don't think your argument is correct - saying "deal with it" may be true, but it is not ideal at all. Those of us who have accepted a subpar situation should not be offended when others rightly criticize & question this subpar situation. The situation is bad, and it is right to question it and express concern with it.   

  

Even in other modern competitive games where high FPS is beneficial, it is only beneficial due to visual latency and smoothness. The game engine of other popular games does not literally change how a character operates, how quickly you can move, how fast you can attack.  This is an outdated and bad aspect of BDO compared to other games.  

  

200+ FPS should make the game stable, fluid, and smooth. 

200+ FPS should not make your character move faster, turn faster, attack faster.  

  

Character movement/animation should be competely separate from FPS.  This is a paradigm that is accepted throughout the rest of the industry. Only in older games, and games that are considered poorly coded, is this sort of thing still an issue.   

  

Unfortunately, the BDO engine was not designed to decouple animations from FPS, so this is not an easy change to ask for. As I understand it, it is basically an impossible change that requires so much effort from the ground up that they would effectively be making a whole new engine of the game; changing the entire core of it all; it's just not feasible unless we're asking for "BDO 2."    

  

I wouldn't hate a cap at some amount of FPS like 120, 144, 165 -- I don't know if 200+ FPS even has any further benefits. I do know 60 FPS feels very different in character speed & responsiveness from 120 FPS. 

  

 

 

300 fps is a completely different game from 120-200

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 21. Aug 2021, 11:13 (UTC)
# 10
On: Aug 20, 2021, 16:12 (UTC), Written by Anvorka

They won't because they can't, in the begining they wanted to cap FPS at 60 FPS but, it's not fair for players with a good set up. But it's also not fair for players with a bad setup.

But deal with it.

So it's basically not fair for anyone? I wonder why they want to change it *thinking emoji* 
It has to change. 

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