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Nouverikant & Other In-game Outfits
05. Okt 2021, 15:03 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 05. Okt 2021, 15:03 (UTC)
# 1

OK, so, this might not be a striking issue, but it is an issue nonetheless. 

tl;dr: make nouverikant *way* cheaper and accessible through in-game activity and quests, like La Orzeca; introduce more themed in-game outfits.

To start with, Nouverikant outfit, the next Big Thing to motivate people hunt for bosses, failed. Seriously. Any qualitative assessment of player's attitudes would show that the community dislikes it: nobody shows it off, barely anyone is pursuing it, there are no mentions of it in group chats, on Reddit, or this forum; and when there are, people just scoff at it.


This is not because it's badly designed, no, it looks good, but because it's just a good outfit for more than 30 billion. It requires a lot of time investment, relying on unpredictable Bloodstorm spawns and random drop from it, and then on top of it you have to spend 30 billion in cash and 42,000 black stones. This is probably the most expensive thing in the game, and there really isn't any justification to it. It's supposed to be a prised item, a treasure, and yet no other treasure requires such massive imemdiate investment.

The direct counterpart of Nouverikant, La Orzeca outfit, is, in contrast, extremely popular. It's one of the most sought-after items among veteran players, and is something people still show off regularly. This isn't because of the much superior design, but because it is indeed a treasure item that is obtained through in-game labour without egregious overinvestment. 

I understand that the 30 billion cash required for Nouverikant was perhaps planned as a tool for money ejection to slow down inflation; but it is not doing its job, because people just don't go after it. Moreover, with the recent addition of Old Moon PEN accessories and an upcoming guaranteed PEN gear system, this function was taken over with a much higher success. As for 42,000 blackstones, they will also be essentially unreachable for most of the playerbase becuase of aforementiond updates: the market demand for blackstones will continue rising. 

Essentially, this outfit is just an extremely overprised, very unfit-for-current-market version of an orzeca outfit that nobody will even try to get. Potentially awesome but essentially -- yet another dead content. 

I see a few options for the fix: 
- Remove or significantly decrease the amount of blackstones needed; the current market is not suited for that at all.
- Significantly reduce the financial investment or introduce a system where Cantarnia’s Crystals could be received as a quest award.
Specifically, an Ancient Kingdom of Orzeca Coin could come in handy. It is currently awarded for O'Dyllita daily quests and is used to exchange for Mass of Pure Magic, and after recent updates, obvioiusly, became completely obsolete. If it was possible to exchange Orzeca Coins for Cantarnia's Crystals, it would bring life back into the daily quests and the armor alike.

Now, having dealt with that, another part of the Feedback. 
Although there are a few in-game outfits available in BDO currently, they are, quite honestly, lackluster. Karlstein is neither unique, because it is also purchasable via Pearl Store, not really that obtainable: the parts for it are a very rare drop, and one would rather go for anything else than hope to drop enough pieces to actually craft in-game Karlstein. Other craftable outfits are only 50% in-game, since they require a Pearl item to be worn; moreover, they are, honestly, a little outdated. Nouverikant is, well, you know already, and only La Orzeca is essentially a successful peice. 

With a lot of content updates incoming and made recently, such as Atoraxxion dungeons and (eventually) incoming new areas, the possibility rises to make new outfits to rival La Orzeca, for example, connected with Atoraxxion thematically and in terms of gameplay. In-game outfits help players differentiate their achievements from simple looks and Pearl or Marketplace-purchased skins, and add much needed content diversity and new goals into game. 

Best regards,

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 05. Okt 2021, 17:30 (UTC)
# 2

That outfit is a great example how disconnected PA is from the game.

 

Surely ppl will going to pay 2 (soon 3) PEN item worth of money for an outfit that looks worse than some random basic you can just pick from market for less than 400m.

 

wasted developer time

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Okt 2021, 19:42 (UTC)
# 3

Torn as I am over the exclusivity of this outfit, I much rather have effort-based restrictions rather than those which can be overcome via silver. I don't mind so much that it is locked to one character but I only play one character regularly and feel that this is one way to express which of my characters is my favorite. 

 

I suppose my main complaint is that this item revolves around silver. GL everyone.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Okt 2021, 21:22 (UTC)
# 5
On: Oct 7, 2021, 19:42 (UTC), Written by Dreadspark

Torn as I am over the exclusivity of this outfit, I much rather have effort-based restrictions rather than those which can be overcome via silver. I don't mind so much that it is locked to one character but I only play one character regularly and feel that this is one way to express which of my characters is my favorite. 

 

I suppose my main complaint is that this item revolves around silver. GL everyone.

 

Well getting silver IS effort, a loot of it, so if that's what you are looking for then it's there.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 08. Okt 2021, 03:49 (UTC)
# 6
On: Oct 7, 2021, 19:42 (UTC), Written by Dreadspark

Torn as I am over the exclusivity of this outfit, I much rather have effort-based restrictions rather than those which can be overcome via silver. I don't mind so much that it is locked to one character but I only play one character regularly and feel that this is one way to express which of my characters is my favorite. 

 

I suppose my main complaint is that this item revolves around silver. GL everyone.

 


Yes, earning things through effort is the way games should be played but unfortunately how long does it take to get that kind of silver? I don't know, I haven't even made 20bn in my lifetime of playing. It's a slow process and even at a modest 100mil/hr, if you were to raise, say, 50bn, it would take 500hrs. That's a tremendous amount of time. Maybe it might  not seem that much to weebs that play this game non-stop all the time (90hrs a week or something) but most people (should) either be in school or have a job, it could take many months. Of course, not everyone will make that much per hour, maybe 50-70mil?

 

But, this is just for one, singular outfit. There's still a bunch of armor, accessories, weapons and weapons for alt characters on top of the other things you have to buy like a dream horse, boat, premium items you find on the shop, etc... So it's no longer about being rewarded for effort, it's being rewarded for wasting your time. 500hrs at $60/hr is $30,000. A single outfit is worth $30k if you're in IT or some other professional job. But say you make half of that, that's still $15,000 for an outfit. Let's say you make half of that (down to $15/hr) that's still $7,500. A pretty expensive outfit right?

 

How can one justify spending 500 hours of their time grinding mindlessly for an outfit that nobody really notices anyway? There are many other things someone can do with their life even if it's not work. Why waste a lot of it grinding mobs for an outfit?

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 08. Okt 2021, 08:05 (UTC)
# 7
On: Oct 7, 2021, 21:09 (UTC), Written by Franklins

The vast majority of the value of the Nouver outfit is not in the outfit itself, it is in the value of the pet, the pet alone is worth 15b silver.

 

The cost to make the outfit makes it rare.  We have gone over this over and over again.

 

That pet not worth 15B silver, not even close, but you already failed with this in a another topic.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 08. Okt 2021, 10:34 (UTC)
# 10
On: Oct 8, 2021, 08:46 (UTC), Written by Franklins

T1 of that pet family is on preorder for 1b silver each, it takes 15 of those level 1 pets to get a T4 version of that pet family, there is no other way to get that pet family.  15 x 1 billion = 15 billion.  Just because you can not do math doesn't mean that the pet is not worth 1 billion.  Since players would still order the T1 version of the Garmoth Pet for 2 even 3 Billion silver, you could even argue that the pet is worth 30-45 billion silver.

 

That pet is still not a gramoth pet.

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