#Allgemeines_Gameplay
So Close To Perfect
16. Mrz 2021, 03:59 (UTC)
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17. Mrz 2021, 20:43 (UTC)
# 41
On: Mar 17, 2021, 11:18 (UTC), Written by Armada
So another cry post from someone that dont know how to enchant, this enchant system is the reason i even play this game, its the same reason i loved playing Lineage 2, you know i have full PEN armor and weapons even made some PEN weapons and armor that i have sold in the past and i have even made a PEN Ogre and i have not spent any money towards that progress besides buying some LT and a tent and some space for my inventory, you know what i spent instead ? time and a lot of it, and i love spending my time just in order to do some enchanting and maybe hit that PEN its a really good feeling, a lot of people say they are super happy when they manage to kill a boss in another game or manage to clear a dungeon, but personaly i just love the feeling of hitting my PEN Ogre for example, it is probly one of the best feelings i have had in a game besides makeing a +16 weapon in Lineage 2 back in C4 this post just sounds like this game aint for you, go play some western game where everything is handed to you for free, games like this clearly aint for you. But! at the end of the day this is just my personal opinion, and you have the right to have ur personal opinion but i can't be the only one who loves this enchant system i mean sure it can be punishing at times but you lose some you gain some (y)
Come on now. Did Pearl Abyss employees make this alt account to post this White Knight garbage? ;)
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17. Mrz 2021, 21:36 (UTC)
# 42
On: Mar 17, 2021, 12:38 (UTC), Written by Ikkymo
Desymoo that is actually the best bunch of ideas for enhancing improvements I have ever heard! I love them actually, AND they make sense and still make it challenging and rewarding.
Do you think so? \o/ I'm sure there might be a few more balance concerns to iron out, but I think the general idea is still a pretty nice balance between fairness and RNG reward. Maybe I should post it over on the suggestions board to get some more brainstorming going?
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17. Mrz 2021, 22:43 (UTC)
# 43
On: Mar 17, 2021, 17:14 (UTC), Written by Vulpin
BDO is 95% not time gated 95% of this game is RNG gated. Only things that are time gated is making a carrack an getting a T10 horse. Smiley simple fails to understand the difference between time gated progess an limitations on a game activity. For instance he calls imperial turn in time gated when it not. All imperial turn in do is basically just print money that it, you can make money by doing anything in this game. An the only reason imperial trades are limited is because the devs know if they don't limit them than people will just be semi afk shiting out 2B a day just cooking an making potions. Plus it would completely destroy the consumable market sense everything used to make these crates would be completely sold out 24/7.
An lol saying making carrack gear is time gated that good one. Ya cause you know waiting for one worker to work a node 10 times when takes them 40 mins to work the node each time really throttled my ability to get full +10 blue gear on my carrack for solid 1 day. An the NW example like what? How that makes any sense is completely beyond me that like saying WB are time gated because they have a spawn timer.
All of that is correct. The only question is whether Mr Bones knows that and is simply dishonest in his online rage or whether he simply can't grasp these concepts.
A lot of real time gated content is obvious. Requiring 100 stones that you acquire running a dungeon which can only be done 2x a day.
A good example in BDO would be the dragon sword. The blacksmith literally time gates your progression on this. However, the impact on these items luckily is so miniscule they don't really impact the game.
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17. Mrz 2021, 22:47 (UTC)
# 44
On: Mar 16, 2021, 04:49 (UTC), Written by Catastigma
the changes you ask for will make it more theme park.
The same way Archeage ended up being more and more theme park over time cause of the same type of suggestion.
To make finally the entire progression daily-quest based.
RNG and progression methods have absolutely nothing to do with how an MMO is classified as theme-park or sandbox.
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17. Mrz 2021, 22:55 (UTC)
# 45
Écrit le : 17 mars 2021, 22:38 (UTC), par : Retteo
All of that is correct. The only question is whether Mr Bones knows that and is simply dishonest in his online rage or whether he simply can't grasp these concepts.
A lot of real time gated content is obvious. Requiring 100 stones that you acquire running a dungeon which can only be done 2x a day.
A good example in BDO would be the dragon sword. The blacksmith literally time gates your progression on this. However, the impact on these items luckily is so miniscule they don't really impact the game.
This kind of nonsense only illustrates the fact that you haven't played most of BDO content, including bartering, levelling sailing, making a carrack, doing any imperial delivery etc etc.
It's ok if you only have the inttelectual capacity to bash braindead mobs, don't don't be arrogant about your ignorance.
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17. Mrz 2021, 23:21 (UTC)
# 46
On: Mar 17, 2021, 22:54 (UTC), Written by Smileybones
This kind of nonsense only illustrates the fact that you haven't played most of BDO content, including bartering, levelling sailing, making a carrack, doing any imperial delivery etc etc.
It's ok if you only have the inttelectual capacity to bash braindead mobs, don't don't be arrogant about your ignorance.
Vulpin already explained it to you.
"Smiley simple fails to understand the difference between time gated progess an limitations on a game activity. For instance he calls imperial turn in time gated when it not. "
True Dat.
I'm tired of horse mounting time gating all my activities!!!! All that time wasted and gating me from moving while I wait for the animations. That's why I never shealth my weapon. That's totally time gated too. It's hard to progress in the game with all these time restrictions. I only cast instant spells because all those other skills are time gating my progress!!!!
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17. Mrz 2021, 23:34 (UTC)
# 47
Écrit le : 17 mars 2021, 23:20 (UTC), par : Retteo
Vulpin already explained it to you.
"Smiley simple fails to understand the difference between time gated progess an limitations on a game activity. For instance he calls imperial turn in time gated when it not. "
True Dat.
I'm tired of horse mounting time gating all my activities!!!! All that time wasted and gating me from moving while I wait for the animations. That's why I never shealth my weapon. That's totally time gated too. It's hard to progress in the game with all these time restrictions. I only cast instant spells because all those other skills are time gating my progress!!!!
You mean Vulpin produced the same level of incompetent nonsense than you. Stating that a daily quota for delivering products isn't time-gated progression is upper level of idiocy, or a total lack of understanding of the concept of time gating.
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17. Mrz 2021, 23:34 (UTC)
# 48
Écrit le : 17 mars 2021, 23:20 (UTC), par : Retteo
Vulpin already explained it to you.
"Smiley simple fails to understand the difference between time gated progess an limitations on a game activity. For instance he calls imperial turn in time gated when it not. "
True Dat.
I'm tired of horse mounting time gating all my activities!!!! All that time wasted and gating me from moving while I wait for the animations. That's why I never shealth my weapon. That's totally time gated too. It's hard to progress in the game with all these time restrictions. I only cast instant spells because all those other skills are time gating my progress!!!!
You mean Vulpin produced the same level of incompetent nonsense than you. Stating that a daily quota for delivering products isn't time-gated progression is upper level of idiocy, or a total lack of understanding of the concept of time gating.
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19. Mrz 2021, 19:47 (UTC)
# 49
On: Mar 17, 2021, 07:49 (UTC), Written by PootyPoot
so what is the difference between that and cron stones? cron stones prevent failure at the cost and have different levels of the cost depends on item grade and enhance level.
I think the problem is that cron stones were clearly added as a way to milk their completely arbitrary set of failure mechanics for money. There's a reason the primary source of cron stones is either the cash shop or events, and they aren't sellable on the market. They weren't built into the system from day one, they're not really tied into the in-game economy, and they certainly weren't designed to reward players for their progress so much as entice them to melt costumes. Granted, this isn't a P2W conversation and the system I'm proposing would essentially keep cron stones as is, because I'm aware this is something the devs are never going to concede on.
I do, however, believe that they might be willing to redesign the system to make it less cancerous for new players, since it's very true that BDO has some massive player retention issues.
So instead of relying on cron stones as the sole way of making the system even slightly bearable, why not redesign the system to be bearable and fair in the first place, and then leave cron stones as an alternative for people who want to speed up the process? If we're really defending a badly designed system because there are arbitrary ways of exploiting it, I guess I don't know what else to say :/
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20. Mrz 2021, 00:43 (UTC)
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Imho there is simple solution to enchancing system. Make cron stone cost 500k, then I would not mind to try 3% chance for pen, could be even fun.
Also put down caphras levels requirement so we could slowly work our way to pens. Now the cost tet to pen is 38 bilion, which is non sense, if the AH price is 16 bilions.
But the Pearl Abyss is way to greedy to make changes like this, when they can milk us so hard like it is now.
On the other hand PA makes good changes every new patch. I played from release (very casualy) so I remember the horrible first auction or when silver has weight. That was real dark times. So maybe there is a chance that the game can be really good one day in the future.
Anyway they invested hard into promotion of BDO and they shooting them self into the foot, becouse plenty of new players will see the terrible enchatning system and other PA shop politics and will leave scared.
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