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DP should not be a nearly useless stat in pvp.
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Jan 2023, 20:18 (UTC)
# 71
On: Dec 15, 2022, 14:25 (UTC), Written by [GM]Ronin

Firstly, the current DP mechanics were developed to keep the gap closer between Adventurers with gear, and those without as much as possible. It is also the belief that sudden changes to the DP systems would cause the gap between these two groups to expand. 

Lol, you just need one geared sorceress to take out a whole extra large guild with lower GS.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 08. Jan 2023, 07:04 (UTC)
# 72
On: Dec 15, 2022, 14:25 (UTC), Written by [GM]Ronin

Dimitreus, thank you so much for your feedback. 

 

This issue was discussed during the Calpheon Ball 2022, where Jaehee explained the intentions behind the current DP mechanics, and some of the plans moving forward. 

 

Firstly, the current DP mechanics were developed to keep the gap closer between Adventurers with gear, and those without as much as possible. It is also the belief that sudden changes to the DP systems would cause the gap between these two groups to expand. 

 

While Jaehee agreed to a certain extent that the efficency of DP mechanics is low, recent additions such as the Vells heart upgrade are intended to be steady steps towards addressing the situation. He also added that some of the feedback in regards to the efficiency of DP are not just down to the actual gear, but also the balance between classes. 

 

So with these concerns understood, they will be kept in mind while fine-tuning balance and developing new items. 

 

Once again, we'd like to thank you for your feedback.

Unfortunatly as you can see your Comment is completely un acceptable, Down votes on your post and lets be honest not a one of you play BDO in its current Meta to actually see how out of ballance it actually is...

Lets use the current change in Crystal's, the change was completely and badly needed i for one welcome the change.... BUT not a single one of you actually thought it through... how is it you can make something that is soo needed but you totally skip the class on the reason why some of the green grade weapons had 1 SINGLE SLOT....

Now with this new system you open up a 2nd crystal slot and unknowing made the green grade best in slot... 8k caphras to c19 and 3 ap less than a Pen nouver c8 more accuracy and well look at that '''''SPECIAL ATTACK DAMAGE +10%""""" THIS IS NOW BEST IN SLOT...concidering the garmoth heart in the offhand dont do crap anymore to mitigate damage. Do to the amount of over all damage in game, everyone is dying with 401+dp within a combo BUT yet you state gear gap?!?!?!?!?

i mean with IQ like this running around who needs enemies right??? how is it that it took less than an hour after the announcment that this was comming for a NA player to figure this out yet you clowns litterally didnt listen to ANY OF THE FEEDBACK  to stop this nonsense from going live... but hey its ok your metrics tell you Musa is not an issue ???? lol

So i guess just keep ignoring the fact DP/DR is pretty much pointless now you die almost instantly on engagment in PVP even at 424dp..

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 08. Jan 2023, 10:51 (UTC)
# 73
On: Jan 8, 2023, 06:59 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

Unfortunatly as you can see your Comment is completely un acceptable, Down votes on your post and lets be honest not a one of you play BDO in its current Meta to actually see how out of ballance it actually is...

Lets use the current change in Crystal's, the change was completely and badly needed i for one welcome the change.... BUT not a single one of you actually thought it through... how is it you can make something that is soo needed but you totally skip the class on the reason why some of the green grade weapons had 1 SINGLE SLOT....

Now with this new system you open up a 2nd crystal slot and unknowing made the green grade best in slot... 8k caphras to c19 and 3 ap less than a Pen nouver c8 more accuracy and well look at that '''''SPECIAL ATTACK DAMAGE +10%""""" THIS IS NOW BEST IN SLOT...concidering the garmoth heart in the offhand dont do crap anymore to mitigate damage. Do to the amount of over all damage in game, everyone is dying with 401+dp within a combo BUT yet you state gear gap?!?!?!?!?

i mean with IQ like this running around who needs enemies right??? how is it that it took less than an hour after the announcment that this was comming for a NA player to figure this out yet you clowns litterally didnt listen to ANY OF THE FEEDBACK  to stop this nonsense from going live... but hey its ok your metrics tell you Musa is not an issue ???? lol

So i guess just keep ignoring the fact DP/DR is pretty much pointless now you die almost instantly on engagment in PVP even at 424dp..

Yeah the devs don't play with their own game so they don't know such tradeoff.

Altrough this also buffed the evasion offhands aswell, so you do have tanky counterpart.

(Not to mentioning that 10% speciall eva gives more damage reduction on avarage than 10% special attack damage.)

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 08. Jan 2023, 15:58 (UTC)
# 74
On: Jan 8, 2023, 10:51 (UTC), Written by CatDK

Yeah the devs don't play with their own game so they don't know such tradeoff.

Altrough this also buffed the evasion offhands aswell, so you do have tanky counterpart.

(Not to mentioning that 10% speciall eva gives more damage reduction on avarage than 10% special attack damage.)

Evasion and accuracy offhands had two slots already the trade off there is ap is significantly decreased in most cases this AP trade off is what makes Kutum BIS for evasion.. IF say the green grades were within 3 ap of kutum than i would 100% agree with you, especially for another 30-40 evasion but a 16-17 ap loss is a bit much.

Drop this green grade weapon AP down to the equivilant of the differance between the other offhands down to around 28~31 ap then this will force players to choose this weapon over damage while still maintaining viability for newer players.

That being said this Publishing team is very quickly becoming as usless as DP in BDO.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 08. Jan 2023, 16:19 (UTC)
# 75
On: Jan 8, 2023, 15:54 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

Evasion and accuracy offhands had two slots already the trade off there is ap is significantly decreased in most cases this AP trade off is what makes Kutum BIS for evasion.. IF say the green grades were within 3 ap of kutum than i would 100% agree with you, especially for another 30-40 evasion but a 16-17 ap loss is a bit much.

Drop this green grade weapon AP down to the equivilant of the differance between the other offhands down to around 28~31 ap then this will force players to choose this weapon over damage while still maintaining viability for newer players.

That being said this Publishing team is very quickly becoming as usless as DP in BDO.

No, accuracy offhand only had one slot, and kutum never was BIS for eva. On classes that had an eva offhand it was the BIS, just not every class have one.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 09. Jan 2023, 09:12 (UTC)
# 76
On: Jan 8, 2023, 06:59 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

Unfortunatly as you can see your Comment is completely un acceptable, Down votes on your post and lets be honest not a one of you play BDO in its current Meta to actually see how out of ballance it actually is...

Lets use the current change in Crystal's, the change was completely and badly needed i for one welcome the change.... BUT not a single one of you actually thought it through... how is it you can make something that is soo needed but you totally skip the class on the reason why some of the green grade weapons had 1 SINGLE SLOT....

Now with this new system you open up a 2nd crystal slot and unknowing made the green grade best in slot... 8k caphras to c19 and 3 ap less than a Pen nouver c8 more accuracy and well look at that '''''SPECIAL ATTACK DAMAGE +10%""""" THIS IS NOW BEST IN SLOT...concidering the garmoth heart in the offhand dont do crap anymore to mitigate damage. Do to the amount of over all damage in game, everyone is dying with 401+dp within a combo BUT yet you state gear gap?!?!?!?!?

i mean with IQ like this running around who needs enemies right??? how is it that it took less than an hour after the announcment that this was comming for a NA player to figure this out yet you clowns litterally didnt listen to ANY OF THE FEEDBACK  to stop this nonsense from going live... but hey its ok your metrics tell you Musa is not an issue ???? lol

So i guess just keep ignoring the fact DP/DR is pretty much pointless now you die almost instantly on engagment in PVP even at 424dp..

And now I regret selling my old Oros two years ago. :D

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 09. Jan 2023, 10:35 (UTC)
# 77
On: Oct 23, 2022, 07:35 (UTC), Written by Saeii

Well if you're agreeing that double Cadry valk build is working then it means DP isn't a useless stat. I'm not saying it shouldn't work. I'm only pointing out it exists and people are running that build because it works well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_49MoelvJY

works quite well on actual DR classes with kits and class modifiers to support it. maybe even too well. :D

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 09. Jan 2023, 11:35 (UTC)
# 78
On: Jan 9, 2023, 10:35 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_49MoelvJY

works quite well on actual DR classes with kits and class modifiers to support it. maybe even too well. :D

super armor all way up, can't get CC = can't get special damage = can't die, i'm double down special attacks stacks and simple ignore players DP.  I'm sure if he let Q block go, he'll disappear before he hit ground from knockdown/floating.

 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 09. Jan 2023, 11:42 (UTC)
# 79
On: Jan 9, 2023, 10:35 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_49MoelvJY

works quite well on actual DR classes with kits and class modifiers to support it. maybe even too well. :D

DR gets exponentially stronger the more you have.

Also not forget that there is significant difference between classes, as some have twice the effective HP pool than others. Thankfully the game is balanced so these classes give nothing up in exchange for their extra tankiness.

Kinda funny but it's actually good that PA is too lazzy to listen to the whiners here, as if they would buff DR we would just get the same AIDS as eva is but on DR aswell...

What they should do is rework the AP brackets so low AP should be less significant increase, but nah...

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Jan 2023, 09:47 (UTC)
# 80

You guys won't have to worry about DP once the devs cap all PvP content :)

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