I posted a similar thread, and agree with this. [Feedback] Improve boss/blackstar subweapons compared to ultimate green subweapons | Black Desert NA/EU/OC (playblackdesert.com)

I understand that there will be items with niche or specialized uses, such as using an accuracy subweapon sometimes when the right opponent shows up.   

I also understand that metagame will shift, and some items will increase or decrease a bit in value to reflect different metagame states.  

But I think this is a clear issue when a 50CP rental item (nesser subweapon), or a 3b green item (AP subweapon), are outperfoming items that cost over 100b silver in almost every situation. 

Yeah you right, but afaik the 10% spec damage is adding up  to 30% damage increase on top of the static % boost already calculated (200%, 150% etc ) of the special attack at places like padix since you have down attack, critical and back attack . This adds up very fast especially when soft caps with 5% in elvia realms and 70% at other places. If you can hit the soft cap of each spot this doesn't scale linearly. This is without the static mob type ap boost 

Imo they should add the spec attack to kutum an nouver even if its pve only( using a stone of some sort which i assume with the new region is a possibility increasing the value of nouver kutum and blackstar). Before people say about garmoth heart  spec eva, there is a low chance of getting it( buying and drop) and adds 10B to the value of boss gear makin the 88b turn into 98B thats a pen tungrad earring / narc belt/valtarra belt /basilisk belt in value difference between that and a green item capped caphras level.

padix kappa

Also this is not how it works. That 10% is 4% damage increase on my DK, adn a total of ~10% on spots with back attacks, however 10% damage doesn't mean 10% more trash, as your dps is not 100% uptime, so while some ppl do minmax with these it's not that big of a deal.

It's cheaper for sure, but it's only good for abusing caps, and not really that good on regular spots.

Would like to see black star have kutum, nouver, and the special attack. There is literally zero reason to even do blackstar subweapon. 

There was literately zero reason to have blackstar sub weapon even before.

The biggest issue is with green offhands vs blackstar. Blackstar is suppose to be the ultimate choice for pve. It is confusing game design, especially for newer players, to have to explain in guides that uber expensive, red text item is actually the wrong thing to aim for. The game teaches you that green is good, gold/yellow is better, red is best. A player should be able to pick up on that pattern and set getting a BS offhand as a goal. It would be rather disappointing for a new player to do that only to learn the green offhand they picked up and vendored at level 18 was actually the better choice.

Some combination of nerfing green offhands while buffing blackstar (and, to a lesser extent, kutum) is in order. One simple suggestion would be to add +15% special attack damage to monsters only to blackstar. It gives a reason to go through the trouble of crafting a BS offhand while not affecting capped pvp. It also makes BS better than kutum which it should be otherwise again there's no reason to craft it.

This is crazy, has everyone forgotten how long we complained about lack of build variety?? PA jsut made useless old items fun and useful, and its bad?? What?

Look, i have 5 diff offhands, and love testing new builds now everywhere. You cannot just go get a green offhand, and expect it to run better than a kutum, doesnt work like that. These builds sacrifice things and you have to fine tune them. Kutum/Godr are still the overall BiS that covers all game content.

BUT, for those of us who love finetuning builds? We have been waiting for this stage in the game for 6-7 years whatever it is now. Greens do not completely change anything, what they change is allowing someone to run different accs, or different crystals, to fine tune a build to the correct ap and accuracy thats it. Thats not game breaking, you have to have a clue what you are doing to actually achieve a beneficial result, because running a green offhand forces you to be very specific about addon and crystal and elixir tuning.

The key point is that these green offhands only have select places they are even useful. They are by no means a replacement, they are now able to be used as an adjustment to builds, which is NOT something that should be changed.

Build varieties have made this game better, please dont push to change that design on the greens! What about adding a small, different buff to say tet/pen godr and pen bs offhands. One that makes it more choosing which for your build vs just making green offhands dead content again, cause thats what will happen if they are nerfed like some here suggest. Yay, back to one build variety... 

I mentioned I have 5 offhands. That is because, i repeat, you cannot jsut buy one and grind everywhere with it. every one is specific use case. Now, with that said, referring to the cost mentioned by someone. The offhands that are worth it, will go up enough in value which they already are, to where its an investment to get one, to run say ONE spot with it. That really doesnt even get in the "too overpowered" category does it? You gotta have a multi billion silver item to grind one spot, slightly better? Come on, just leave that stuff for the min maxers to enjoy, who cares if we make 5 mil more an hour at a spot, we spend TWENTY hours just tuning to do that haha:)

Personally i enjoy the ability to look outside of two items for a slot, i think with this tho kutum and nouver should become more specialized
they could give kutum (edited the comment bc i relized i said nouver here at first) more pve "damage" instead of just the monster ap so that it will perform better than say the estique in capped zones, and they could give nouver a similar change of say take something away and give it human dmg or something (whatever would make it worth using) since nouver is mainly used for pvp

ik with estique there is a bit of an accuraccy lose for using it but for most classes that isnt very important to lose that amount of accuraccy with the ap gain and the special atk dmg +10%, im not a big numbers guy but i think more options is normally a good thing for gearing

cheap c20 TRI green(well, ultimated) offhand is bis for T2 and other capped content that has 20% spec eva cap. go figure dev logic. also, why there are those cringe quest accessories exisiting in pvp at capped content only god knows.

Well they don't play with their own game so they probably think that ppl just go here and play with their regular gear and ejoy the caps. Given how clueless they are they don't even have idea about how exploiting caps is the meta here.