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Increase Monetary Reward for Red Battle Field (RBF)
25. Apr 2023, 00:42 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 16. Mai 2023, 06:50 (UTC)
# 271
On: May 15, 2023, 12:31 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

I completely disagree.

Everything in this game is Gear Capped if you want that goto siege or NW. There is not much left out there for those of us at end game.

This is like everything in games, you want to goto Oluns guess what you need gear, want crypt of resting thoughts or ash forest you need gear.

RBF should be were you see gear progression gives you something to strive for instead of getting to Cap then saying I'm done.

Use my gear: Behg and urugun c10, duo labreska and FG, Tet tungard earrings, pen capotia, tet tidal valtara, pen crescent and oen capotia rings, c11 kzarka, c8 nouver, pen fiery awa, exated vell heart. I have 290/287/393 and tell me RBF is fun. No new players dont have  proper pvp gear because they must grind for months/years.. and firstable they must get gear and be able to grind on end game spots.. PvP should be for everyone ( every type of content) now only Arena of Solare are gear capped and what new players can do when season end ? Go only pve ? Because they will get non stop oneshot, without possibility to do even one damage against evasion builds ? It does not have sense. Keep your gear for open world pvp. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 16. Mai 2023, 16:08 (UTC)
# 272
On: May 16, 2023, 06:45 (UTC), Written by Equben

Use my gear: Behg and urugun c10, duo labreska and FG, Tet tungard earrings, pen capotia, tet tidal valtara, pen crescent and oen capotia rings, c11 kzarka, c8 nouver, pen fiery awa, exated vell heart. I have 290/287/393 and tell me RBF is fun. No new players dont have  proper pvp gear because they must grind for months/years.. and firstable they must get gear and be able to grind on end game spots..

You kind sir are wrong on every mark.

Multiple content creators have taken brand new account from season to 700gs in-between 55-110 days. With little to no cash.

Players in our guild have taken there accounts to 720gs in 7 months one hit 740gs in just over 1 year (he was a life skiller with zero gear this guy put only 150usd into BDO)

With the current state of BDO and the catch up mechanics you are doing nothing but making excuses for your own lack of effort.

I am sorry but you and others in your position have squandered whatever excuses that others have allowed you to make. It's all on you and your personal goals. You can't do it playing 15-30 mins  a day.

I know several players that go into RBF as well as BA with trial chars and have no problem killing 700gs players.

I know some top end players that absolutely destroy people in RBF with just over 700gs.

Class itself helps but if you understand how to fight in GVG have a decent computer capable of 100+FPS and just know your place in a group you will do just fine.

The issue comes is trying to be a melee/tank class and jump into a group of players all have over 301 ap most are closer to 309 and you die in super armor by the range class on the roof cuz you were not paying attention.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 21. Mai 2023, 14:55 (UTC)
# 273

It is indeed a very good suggestion BUT ... You can only polish a turd to a certain extent.

No amounts of rewards can alievate innate bad map designs and UI, and it takes more than slapping colored circles on old assets and maps that were never designed for that purpose to make actual good battlefield maps and modes, something Pearl Abyss has never been good at since the first iteration of RBF.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Mai 2023, 13:10 (UTC)
# 274

More content please

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 28. Mai 2023, 11:09 (UTC)
# 275

As I walk (yes I mean walked!) from point to point on my very killable DR only shai, never handing out a buff to my side… and eventually wining the match, I realized…

 

The current RBF only reward you with a kills sheets and this leads to people wanting to give up points and have losing scores. So that the other side is debuffed on point objective and your side has a buff from having lower match score (I have seen players walk away from a point as some enemy comes along, let it fall, let the match swing over, just so they can get that debuff and a kill...not lots of kills not defending a point, nah one gaurentted kill at the cost of the match.. so winning reward Vs kills may need to be ajusted in this idea to avoid this issuse even more?).

 

Currently all that matters in RBF are kills, so the mechanics are used backward, to farm kills. (not even match wins are recorded like kills are, oversight by pa? Let's have a rank badge for RBF wins!!! worried i will be number one? :P)

 

To lose is a benefit for farming kills as there is no worthwhile reward.

 

This may be one of the more important reason RBF need somewhat reasonable rewards. To encourage players to want to win, rather than farm kills.

(remebering i said, current idea may need some re-thinking to lessen rewards for kills even more, match win should be key! Point capture, defence and winning are the goals, Killing is a tool, dont make kill a major qulifier, it should happen organicaly)

 

Now, don’t get me wrong, when we have the regular RBers in, this farming and point surrendering dose not happen, because we don’t let it, by playing the game.

 

But outside oh such hours, players will play the mechanics in order to farm kills.

 

I hope you take this onboard, I basically study RBF at different times/days and regions (you may not like it that ‘the snoods’ as shai is an RBF expert, but facts are facts… more than most can as I’m house bound and I hate to grind… so I RBF.

 

I’m also a shai, so it’s my job to pay attention to what’s going on, rather than focused on a target for a kill. (i play a team role in a team match as my class was design to be)

 

And I have played APFull DR DP (Current test at higher gear) - Full Evesion disruption (just did a 9 part series on that covering 3h+ from psychology, to gear, to style) and an active member of the RBF discord… I’m not talking rubbish, you would be hard press to find anyone that plays RBF to this level.

 

Lack of reasonable rewards is leading to Valencia RBF being played in an exploitive way. So the idea rewards would be exploited is backward (and reward exploitation can be dealt with. But players playing mechanics backwards is allowed by TOS, that’s just a failing of PA ideas).

 

They would be more driven to play the game as indented if it was worthwhile to do so (reality shows us this is how players react)… we address this issues in all other areas of the game, why not here?

 

Kills scores mean next to nothing unless it’s a shai skill sheet (just how it is, shai not meanna get kills so they actually mean something: P), but that said. That’s all there is in RBF. Time to offer something real and have RBF played like it was menna be….

 

We are seeing more and more shifting back to classic Castle ruins where the exploitation of mechanics for kills is nearly zero (just spawn protection). More and more people are getting fed up with the failing and backward mechanics of Valencia,  only the Kill farmers seem happy with it as it is..

 

See, the reality is counter to what some say it is. More rewards would lead to less exploitation of at least the game mechanics.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 06. Jun 2023, 09:28 (UTC)
# 276

Also there should be more stats to RBF like with AoS. heals, Ccs etc are as much a factor that wins the Fight than just pure last hits and DPS. If we could get more stats and make those also give points for the rewards I would be happy about it. 

Cause as a DP Shai my contribution is buffing and rebuffing, but healing and CCs is also a very big part of it....and u get no points for that whats so ever....

there is a reason Shais are mostly forbidden to join smaller scale fights cause they are game changers if done right...but you don't get point for the RBF ranking, no matter how long u play (as reward) and with a new system still going off kills u wont also get nothing. Points for getting and holding a point are to little...no way to get even close to Top 10 reward for us with only that. 

Start rewarding teamplay rather than only form solo hunters than just get all the last hits and run around one hitting ppl. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 06. Jun 2023, 09:32 (UTC)
# 277

personally i wouldnt mind specific achievments unlockable by total RBF points aswell, nothing fancy, maybe some titles, better xchange rates,more exchange options etc.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 06. Jun 2023, 10:42 (UTC)
# 278
On: May 16, 2023, 16:00 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

You kind sir are wrong on every mark.

Multiple content creators have taken brand new account from season to 700gs in-between 55-110 days. With little to no cash.

Players in our guild have taken there accounts to 720gs in 7 months one hit 740gs in just over 1 year (he was a life skiller with zero gear this guy put only 150usd into BDO)

With the current state of BDO and the catch up mechanics you are doing nothing but making excuses for your own lack of effort.

I am sorry but you and others in your position have squandered whatever excuses that others have allowed you to make. It's all on you and your personal goals. You can't do it playing 15-30 mins  a day.

I know several players that go into RBF as well as BA with trial chars and have no problem killing 700gs players.

I know some top end players that absolutely destroy people in RBF with just over 700gs.

Class itself helps but if you understand how to fight in GVG have a decent computer capable of 100+FPS and just know your place in a group you will do just fine.

The issue comes is trying to be a melee/tank class and jump into a group of players all have over 301 ap most are closer to 309 and you die in super armor by the range class on the roof cuz you were not paying attention.

700 GS in 55 days ? Yea I have seen that video and you know what ? Who have a time to play 8h daily ? Please xd Also guides were made by experianced players there is no way tha newbie will be able to repeat this. If this guy ( who is OP) have no private life all he is doing in his life is sleep-> job -> BDO-> sleep then yea its possible or maybe he live in different reality where day lasts 36 hours. Normal guy will play max 2-3 hours/day so easy maths it will take him around 210 days. Answer me who will struggle for 7 months to finally get to a point where he can participate in the most fun content - pvp ? Simple : a few, rest will just quit game, calling it trash. My guild every season try to get new players 90% quit after season or after early graduation.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 06. Jun 2023, 11:08 (UTC)
# 279
On: Jun 6, 2023, 10:26 (UTC), Written by Equben

700 GS in 55 days ? Yea I have seen that video and you know what ? Who have a time to play 8h daily ? Please xd Also guides were made by experianced players there is no way tha newbie will be able to repeat this. If this guy ( who is OP) have no private life all he is doing in his life is sleep-> job -> BDO-> sleep then yea its possible or maybe he live in different reality where day lasts 36 hours. Normal guy will play max 2-3 hours/day so easy maths it will take him around 210 days. Answer me who will struggle for 7 months to finally get to a point where he can participate in the most fun content - pvp ? Simple : a few, rest will just quit game, calling it trash. My guild every season try to get new players 90% quit after season or after early graduation.

u r missing the fact where 80+++% of organized pvp modes in the game are gear capped.

T1 nw,

T2 nw,

T3 nw.

capped sieges

seasonal RBF

Arena of Shitare

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 06. Jun 2023, 11:29 (UTC)
# 280
On: Jun 6, 2023, 10:26 (UTC), Written by Equben

700 GS in 55 days ? Yea I have seen that video and you know what ? Who have a time to play 8h daily ? Please xd Also guides were made by experianced players there is no way tha newbie will be able to repeat this. If this guy ( who is OP) have no private life all he is doing in his life is sleep-> job -> BDO-> sleep then yea its possible or maybe he live in different reality where day lasts 36 hours. Normal guy will play max 2-3 hours/day so easy maths it will take him around 210 days. Answer me who will struggle for 7 months to finally get to a point where he can participate in the most fun content - pvp ? Simple : a few, rest will just quit game, calling it trash. My guild every season try to get new players 90% quit after season or after early graduation.

Which content ? Hexe grinding ?  What for, everything is capped - grind is pointless, which is morelikely exactly reason population dropping - game have no goals.

10% of seasonal players keep playing game ? For me its looke like insane high %, because "seasonal" players just play season and move on to the next game.

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