*cries in awakening wizard melee turret class*`Fortunately I mostly PvE nowadays so, this will just be a net bonus for me, not like I could win many fights before anyway.

Hmm, while I cannot complain about this change because to be honest without literally taking the 10% special attack bonus off the green weapons would have enraged the community of PvPers. While I am appreciative of them at least trying to resolve the issue of BIS sub weapons, and owning that they did not do any QC/QA before crystal changes I'm kinda angry that they messed up causing this issue in the first place. 

My only concern with this now is what class will become FoTM, due to the damage increase to some and certain classes (400+ DP and get incapped standing up due to damage in PvP). 

I wanted to know. Did the option of a easier fix come up? I mean what they should of done in order to fix this issue was to make it where "ALL" boss weapons at "V" would have 5% special attack, green weapon at " V" 3% instead of blanketing everything with 10% special attack, SMH.

Sigh, we will see how this pans out.

dont think much pvpers would get mad lol 

green offhand are still better off than before crystal changes 

You shouldn't be able to caph green items (absolute straight face,) problem solved. But nah I like green items. ELSH underrated. Everything has a purpose. When you are coming up, you want accuracy, and the AP caps should only apply to monsters. If it applies to pvp, too, that's insane.

Still going to use the accuracy offhand

WHY CAN YOU CAPH GREEN ITEMS. Eject caphs. So much stuff you can't caph in the game, why can you caph doggy weps?  Well, 10% dmg ain't bad tho :):)

When it starts being like x12 x15 -dp +++++ it really starts to skew.

The apology is funny for such a simple solution. It's like they put math people on it then they were like WELL 10% special attack dmg... yeah gg. haha.

As I said either here or in another thread, green items have their place. There are some weirdly OP green items for certain parts in the game. Once you get boss stuff, tho, that should be where you build end game.

WHY? Let me explain:

IF you restrict end game pvp (caphras?!) to only certain gear, that's a hell of a lot easier to balance. Dudes running around with green C20 should be ashamed. haha, I'm sorry, that just seems so cheezy. NOT WAI. Well, good luck BDO balancers or those who care about winning pvpz.

Yeah they made some changes to the off-hand issue :)

My issue with Offhands is related to (Time-Silver-Treasure Items Investement)

Maining Warrior Awakening and going Accuracy - Damage Reduction.

Crystal - Lightstone setup is also focused around Accuracy/ DR/ Crit with occasional utility (Offensive/ Defensive) Stats depending on content.

Although accesories can be a mix of AP/ HP and Accuracy i am even thinking of going with double Narcs and Nouver.

Here's where the problem appears.

For PvE you want Kutum. For PvP Nouver. Everyone says...

However you cant invest into both which equals Garmoth Heart/ C20 Caphras.

So in the end you're either stuck with Kutum which gives you Accuracy you already have at decent level so its pointless plus Evasion which you cant really benefit from because of being a DR classes and even going DR. Not to mention the AP gimp with Kutum.

All that due to Monster Damage?

Which raises the question why not just go Nouver and Double Narcs for Defensive stats after you have C4 Defensive Gear and reach post 280AP Brackets for PvE as well and maybe use Monster Damage Crystals for PvE?

My point is Nouver vs Kutum should be a DR vs Evasion choice and not a PvE vs PvP choice.

I dont quite understand how relevant my setup will be because i am doing my research and preparation currently but everyone keeps saying go Kutum PvE and Nouver PvP which is a ''Red Line'' since i do not intend to invest C20 and Garmoth Heart into more than one Offhand.

Maybe Nouver would be better if it had similar DR like Kutum has Evasion becoming a Kutum Copy for DR Classes and Builds?

I dont even know what to suggest since i am lost.

However i know for certain i only want one Off Hand for all content and thats what i plan to do and thats how i intend to build up.

double post*

1, You don't need garmoth hearth in a PvE offhand, it's purely a PvP only upgrade

2, You don't need c20 kutum, even a pen is whatever. You progress your main gear (if you're a PvP player then your nouver, if you only PvE then blackstar), but generally kutum is your last upgrade.

If you PvP you have the option of building full AP(hp) acessories and have a accuracy offhand swap for your nouver when it's needed.