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Awaken Mage teleport upgrades in a battlefield where mobility is ever increasing
21. Mai 2023, 16:29 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 24. Mai 2023, 03:05 (UTC)
# 11

That latest bit of context made it much clearer to me regarding your expectations with Elementalization allowing the Witch to use another charge of ultimate teleport. 

I understand that you'd be able to double teleport in, Voltaic -> Thunderstorm -> Barrage -> Elementalization -> (1) Ultimate: Teleport and skip ahead the requirements of teleport. Or just Elementalization -> (1) Ultimate : Teleport in a skirmish if you did not feel like Elementalization brought you to safety...

I see. It is more elegant than I first thought. Would that teleport be instantly chained after Elementalization or will it have the usual cast (staff up in the air then teleport ) for a comfortable gameplay?

However, I think three teleport in a row is too strong.

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That being said, I would reiterate the idea that Ultimate Teleport shouldn't have a cooldown for Awakening. BUT. Given that, it's only castable on SPACE BAR after:
1. Teleport
2. Elementalization

So, you'd be able to do.  Teleport -> Ultimate Teleport -> Elementalization -> Ultimate Teleport.   That would be the highest chain you can commit to. 

Now, I think this is really cool. You will surely need stamina now.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 24. Mai 2023, 03:13 (UTC)
# 12
On: May 24, 2023, 03:05 (UTC), Written by Despins

I see. It is more elegant than I first thought. Would that teleport be instantly chained after Elementalization or will it have the usual cast (staff up in the air then teleport ) for a comfortable gameplay?

However, I think three teleport in a row is too strong.

In my suggestion it would be Ultimate: Teleport, same skill be it chained after Teleport or Elementalization. So it would mean it works instantly no cast time same as when you use Ultimate: Teleport in double teleporting currently.

I disagree that that it is too strong and actually with 3 charges that I heavily suggest it being, means it is 4x teleport (= 1xTeleport and 3xUltimate) ofc in the end you can still add even elementalize but that would require casting elementalize and the casting it takes almost longer than for best mobility classes to zup over the distance it moves. This is where current mobility in BDO is at and then think of the huge drawback if you actually use all your charges. You can't do any ultimate in 8-9 seconds until first charge is back up and as said simple tele or elem without ulti step is so short it's laughable these days.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 25. Mai 2023, 09:11 (UTC)
# 13

in my honest opinion, they can leave teleport as is(id reduce cd by 1 sec for awaken spec), but elementalization HAS to become dependable full iframe skill

and we could use some sort of longer lasting repositioning skill like sorcs V like thingy or at least something like sages rift thingy to buy us some time/space.... that water riding skill from bdo mobile would be amazing.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 06. Jun 2023, 01:40 (UTC)
# 14
On: May 25, 2023, 09:10 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

in my honest opinion, they can leave teleport as is(id reduce cd by 1 sec for awaken spec), but elementalization HAS to become dependable full iframe skill

and we could use some sort of longer lasting repositioning skill like sorcs V like thingy or at least something like sages rift thingy to buy us some time/space.... that water riding skill from bdo mobile would be amazing.

Are we, the few awaken mage players still in existence, really saying we are happy for the distance traveled by teleport and ultimate? Even when there are classes that can use their modern mobility skills to cover even farther distance (than TP+Ulti) in time it takes for us to cast our TP?

The game did not stop developing after we received Ulti teleport which was fine for that era but seriously lacking in distance in current era.

Sure we need also defenses which iframes would help, same as we need alot more pvp damage - against some classes because their class v class modifiers are tuned to succession NOT for awakening, but those are another issues, this topic is purely about our mobility. Oh and fast mobility can be a defensive measure unto itself. Black Spirit (Black Desert Online)" Poster for Sale by actuallypokesie |  Redbubble

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 06. Jun 2023, 05:05 (UTC)
# 15
On: May 22, 2023, 06:58 (UTC), Written by PootyPoot

yeah sure after succ nova gets SA damage reduction and 2 more iframe movements.

pretty sure they removed the sa damage reduction a year or so ago when they did the class "reworks"....

unless you are talking about protected area which got nerfed to the ground and effectively stuns you while you do it

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Jun 2023, 12:33 (UTC)
# 16
On: May 25, 2023, 09:10 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

in my honest opinion, they can leave teleport as is(id reduce cd by 1 sec for awaken spec), but elementalization HAS to become dependable full iframe skill

and we could use some sort of longer lasting repositioning skill like sorcs V like thingy or at least something like sages rift thingy to buy us some time/space.... that water riding skill from bdo mobile would be amazing.

There seems to be a bit of a disconnect between wizard and witch players on this one, likely due to wizard having 2 additional protected movement abilities.


I think a good middle ground here would be:
-replacing the useless q block on awake witch with something more like maegu's sa q dash

-making elementalization a full iframe and moving it back to s+space or onto s+q

-lowering the cooldown of magical evasion from 4 seconds to 1 or 2 seconds, which would be more inline with other classes.

Lv Privat
Octagon
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Jun 2023, 12:39 (UTC)
# 17
On: May 21, 2023, 22:59 (UTC), Written by Bridonna

Sure as long as succ nova's defenses are nerfed and ability-animations slowed so that they die as easily as awaken mages do :D 

Forgot to mention relace their ranged grab with nothing, make the summons cosmetic, and remove sa and movement on block

Lv Privat
Octagon
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Aug 2023, 16:11 (UTC)
# 18
On: May 24, 2023, 03:05 (UTC), Written by Despins

That being said, I would reiterate the idea that Ultimate Teleport shouldn't have a cooldown for Awakening. BUT. Given that, it's only castable on SPACE BAR after:
1. Teleport
2. Elementalization

So, you'd be able to do.  Teleport -> Ultimate Teleport -> Elementalization -> Ultimate Teleport.   That would be the highest chain you can commit to.

I like this idea 👍

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 31. Dez 2023, 05:17 (UTC)
# 19

Give awaken mages more mobility OR better yet NERF all the high mobile classes you have been adding of late, get mobility back down what it was 5 years ago when skill actually mattered more than how far you blink on a laggy server to do 1 hit kills with your uberFOTM9001 class

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