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Very important and much needed change to give at least some appreciation to those who invest into the lifeskill!

i have nothing against it, but why are you trying to gatekeep?

why not advocate that whole system is just bad and by adding 50 ferns PA acknowledged this.

Instead make lvling training waaaaay easier and/or just give more of the stuff for ATLEAST 1 try/week

T10 are cosmetic, no point to timegate that much.

Well, right now, there's no real huge benefit in training levels, and time gate t10s for lower training level is quite fair to those who dedicated in training and focuses on it everyday. I do like suggestion from the horse community, making Gurus guaranteed 1 attempt/week from weeklies/dailies, while master will be lacking a little bit of feathers from weeklies which can be grind out by other methods. Alternatively, PA could add something / new content that benefits these dedicated trainers.

I don't disagree, but that's just how PA designed it. There is no implementing fairness without "gatekeeping" in small amounts. Because when this was released in lab, it was advertised as high level trainers content, so is it not equitable that people who've spent months grinding the lifeskill for this horse system to not get to keep an advantage.
Again, I agree that content should be mainstreamed as needed, just as gear was. I don't wish people to suffer. It was needed to keep up or new players would rarely stay and be able to keep up. However, this proposal already considers that the content has been mainstreamed. There is no gatekeeping, unless you already consider what PA has done day 1 by making the content more accessible to high level trainers.

I think it's important to note that not even PA agrees they are just cosmetic anymore, as they mentioned it feeling needed at the ball.

I would also just like to remind that t10 did come with a failstack system in lab, but they had removed it. It was only 30 attempts to get an 100% guarantee t10. Personally I felt like that was the best system for everyone; no gatekeeping, and no suffering.

Noooooo, its the players, who cry about "but muh hard work" PA would totally make training easier and more accessible if not all the complaining about internet penispoints.

Hard work my ass, some1 has to convince me catching horses is "hard work".

You're more than welcome to view how many hours it takes thanks to many resources the horse community has provided trainers. With typical buffs, it's about 533 hours / 12k horses for active capturing from prof 1 > Guru 1

But, regardless, I think you missed the point. Whether or not you think it's hard work, bdo has always been about "you play more, you get rewarded more." hence why this content was initially supposed to reward people who invested time, adequately to the amount of time they invested back into the lifeskill. 
And trainers have called for making horses easier constantly if you've ever paid attention, we just aren't large enough to make a voice. Also is why they made the minigame easier, which we requested for years, only for PA to do it once everyone was forced to capture 1 horse for magnus. 

Do you really trying to say clicking buffs and doing the minigame is hard work?  Cmon, nobody but ppl who waste their time on it and regret that think that. I got map, compass 3 sets of pots and none of that was hard work.

You get more if you play more, you want that newer players dont catch up to you. Hence gatekeep. But you prove my point. "Muh hard work gets thrown out of the window if the new players get it easy and i had to suffer" Thats all i see.

You fail to realize that the suggested buff for fern roots also benefits new players. They can easily push to master in a fairly short time frame and be rewarded for their work as well.

Besides that, BDO is a grinder. Long grinds are considered hard due to the time needed. Very very few things in this game are actually mechanically hard. And yes, according to BDO standards, the grind to guru training is one of the hardest (because longest) one you can do. Nothing is hard about clicking buffs, nothing is hard about catching one horse, nothing is hard about clearing a rotation one time. But catching 12000 horses? Clearing a rotation for hundreds of hours while failing to get the item you're after? That is considered hard for BDO standards.

If you think map/compass are easy grinds, you're right on a mechanical level. But nothing is easy about hour 2000 trying to finally get that damn Elten piece. So you were either really lucky and don't appreciate what you have or don't value your own time I guess.

Cmon man, what new player will actually lvl to master? Even IF they find out they can auto sprint with prof it will be the highest they go for.

Training is arguably the most unrewarding lifeskill in the game! New players will do something fun instead.

I dont even know why i am arguing, PA will will roll the dice anyways and our (as in this forum) inputs wont matter.

Btw i spend 6months for elten, running circles pressing same buttom aint hard. Wake up. Its just a game no1 but you cares.