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Forcing PVP on to people is bad
07. Dez 2023, 13:17 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 13:17 (UTC)
# 1

Family Name: Adalwen

Region (NA/EU): EU

Suggestions/Comments: 

Let people play what mode they want freely. If i want to PVE freely i should. Not everyone loves to PVP, and especially not everyone have the time to study every class to know their rotation, what skill is protected, etc, etc. And most new players will just Quit the game completely. I think it's very telling what people want just by looking the "servers" population, and what activity most people actually do. 

I'm a competitive type of player, but you need so much time invested to learn so many thing, BDO has to be your main and your second job. To enjoy even partly OWPVP, you literally need to be decently geared, and to have a good understanding of most classes, on top of that, you still going to kill/die in 2 seconds, so it's still feel meh.

But most importantly Forcing something to players it's going to make them hate this thing, and it's what happen with the OWPVP.

I actively play 2-3 hours per day, and i recently changed my class to Ninja, as i'm high APM lover player. I love masterying my class, and the content i play.

I'm an ex Apex Legends Predator player, but currently i have no more then 2-3 hours playing. So i prefer to spend my time Grinding PVE, as it's relaxing, and enjoyable, especially with fast clicking. And there is a learning curve in perfecting your zone routine and improve your grinding results.

Now i'm not against PVP, but i don't get all the crying from the PVP players, and that they want to force PVP literally upon everyone. There is a dedicated server for this, and you get a 50% drop rate bonus on it. So what exactly is your problem ? Just play there, h?
Nqh, we all know that most people that are guarding the forum and are crying loudly don't want to actually PVP equl gear/skilled players, and they just want to grief players that just want to enjoy PVE, and don't have all day playing. As you need gear to do a proper PVP(except for AOS, which is most new and mid people like me enjoy).


Let's be real the crying is from griefers. They have their dedication PVP server, they also have plenty of PVP modes in the game. But they don't want that. They are actually bad, and just want to storm new players or ones that are entirely focusing on PVE.

This is equal to me being a Predator player, plays in a Bronze or Silver Lobby in Apex. Or a Vet CS:GO players, plays in a newplayer lobbies. Can you guess how many of the new players will actually stay in the game? Even the average/mid type of players that wants to become good, but want to play in equal lobbies?

It's the same situation in here.

The game is going in a decent direction. People loves PVE, and you see a huge wave of player base, because of the changes. A lot of these people will want to do PVP as well, but they don't want to be forced. When they are geared enough, and check that mark, they will start grinding the PVP aspect, practicing more and PVP. Forcing people to do PVP content, is going to drive your playerbase away. Same as listening to toxic people who think they have the right to say, cause they are simply no-lifers. 

I hope we get dedicated PVE server in the future, where people can grind freely, and zones are just like a big Marni, aka Instance zone.

Just give the people freedom to do what they want. If they want to PVP, there is a dedicated server for that with zero penalty, if people want to PVE freely, let them do that.


Thank you.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 14:47 (UTC)
# 2
On: Dec 7, 2023, 13:17 (UTC), Written by LordBagbuna

Family Name: Adalwen

Region (NA/EU): EU

Suggestions/Comments: 

 People loves PVE, and you see a huge wave of player base, because of the changes.

Loosing 5000 players gaining 100 is huge wave??? Or you mean huge wave is gone because of the changes. If yes you are correct.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 15:10 (UTC)
# 3
On: Dec 7, 2023, 13:17 (UTC), Written by LordBagbuna

i don't get all the crying from the PVP players, and that they want to force PVP literally upon everyone.

They are not pvp players, they are griefiers who only do is disturb other players and keep repeating their embarrassing mantra about "their spots", "their rotations", etc.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 15:16 (UTC)
# 4

And I dont get PvE players. There are so many ways to avoid unwanted PvP. But now we see some changes that usualy leads to game death. And steam charts shows in what bad state the game is. And J is basicaly apologise for what mistake he did.

Yet some players or I should posters stay delusional.

From the last Dev talk Im kinda positive, that devs know what mistake they did. Now lets hope the gona fix it, not make it worst.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 16:10 (UTC)
# 5

If you made this post last year prior to the Marni Realm being added to the game, I would give it credit.  To make this post after the Marni Realm was added and all the recent changes to PvP is straight trolling.  

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 18:57 (UTC)
# 6

I don't think griefing is really an issue anymore. They've made multiple changes to improve the situation.

• 12 hours of Marni Realm

• Guild War requires mutual consent

• 5 minute server swap cooldown

• Family-wide Karma

• And most recently, disabled the Black Robe NPC in Velia

Perhaps there could be further improvements such as changing the open-world PvP system to an opt-in (e.g War Mode from World of Warcraft) where players who have opted in gain small benefits and can attack other players who have also opted in without any penalties and the need to flag. Players who have opted out would be semi-transparent, untargetable and have a green name.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 19:06 (UTC)
# 7

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 19:41 (UTC)
# 8
On: Dec 7, 2023, 14:47 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Loosing 5000 players gaining 100 is huge wave??? Or you mean huge wave is gone because of the changes. If yes you are correct.

Is this a troll attempt?

The huge burst player base that comes into the game was with the LOML + the more newfriendly game + PVE Focus. Boss Shrine bosses, new monster zones, etc, etc.

There was a 10k.+ player burst.

As far as the Guild Dec change, that happen in September, and the so call 5k. Steam Chart player drop was from July to August. 
Also there is months where there is always a drop in player numbers for obvious reason. 

You have to be completely blind to tell me that majority want to PVP, is that why you are all crying that Arsha is emtpy and people don't want to OWPVP ? Or is it because something else? 

Also why is the reason for Devs to changing the focus to more PVE and newplayer friendly ? Could it be because the actual majority, aka 99% of the playerbase and future players want to freely PVE, mostly for few hours after work and enjoy killing monsters, and don't want to get griefed in about 1 seconds, from someone teleporting to them ?

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 19:42 (UTC)
# 9
On: Dec 7, 2023, 15:16 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

And I dont get PvE players. There are so many ways to avoid unwanted PvP. But now we see some changes that usualy leads to game death. And steam charts shows in what bad state the game is. And J is basicaly apologise for what mistake he did.

Yet some players or I should posters stay delusional.

From the last Dev talk Im kinda positive, that devs know what mistake they did. Now lets hope the gona fix it, not make it worst.

And i don't get PVP players, you can have your open World PVP in the Arsha, with a 50% Item Drop Rate, which is a HUGE Bonus. So why are you not PVP-ing there? Enlighten us pls.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 19:42 (UTC)
# 10

Another who believes he's special and refuses to use tools at his disposal to avoid those problems.

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