Sure, sure. The game's going into the "right" direction. KR players are "satisfied" by the feedback PA gets. Things just come out of nowhere and content gets boycotted.

What's your point?

bro...you are even less smart srsly.

Explaining something to you few times and still dont understand... Well there are two variants, sorry but you are verry very dumb or just troll. I will bet on second... And lies about me? Shouldn be this bannable?
Anyway I dont like dealing with dumb trolls bb felicia.

Im don with this troll. Even didnt read the last few posts. And since there is no PM function in this forum : ( Chowek toq schupi vsichki typometri v istoriqta na toq forum. Poweche e nqkvo schupeno AI otkolkoto realna lichnost. Ne si gubi vremeto s nego)

You didn't explain anything. And what exactly i lied about you? And bannable, is that your argument? Where did i send something offendable to you "buddy" ? It's you who are throwing words like stupid, dumb, troll, etc, etc, cause you simply can't answer my question, as we both know the answer and why you are not playing in there.

The thing is, you have your option, as it should be, but PVE players does not have. 

I'm done as well, as there is no sense losing more time on this. But i'm sure in the near future they will implement the things the vast majority want and the game will get better. And yeah better not just for me and you, as i can be fine the way it is now, but it could be so much better for everyone, without forcing people to do things they don't want. As well as giving them half-***** solution, that can easily be bypassed.

As far as the Guild Dec, you won't ever get that one sided b.c. back, as it should have never been in the game from the first place.

Thanks god and hope so.

- owpvp belongs to the majority of servers, not only Arsha and its variants.

- we want an owpvp with rules, penalties, Arsha has none. A Free For All owpvp like Arsha's often leaves no room for pve, and we don't want that. We're pvpve players, pve also matters to us.

- BDO is clearly a pvpve game, that's even why we chose it. There's nothing like a "forced pvp" here, there are only players who chose a game with pvp when they don't like this aspect. The difference means a lot.

- we went every potential abuse to be controlled by IG rules ; in that way, we are the real ones thinking about the majority of players here.

But there's nothing new here, what I'm writing right now has already been explained many times. But there's always a random "pure pve defender" coming here to throw all the usual arguments about Arsha and "baby seal clubbing"... Come on... Be more constructive, think about what BDO was, and what BDO is. And here, you can see that, despite rechargeable Marni, family wide karma, war dec changes, devs are still struggling with pvpve but they don't want to see the real solution : better ruuuuuuuules... Controlling EVERY potential abuse, including excessive ks, bodythrowing and mob feeding ... And from here, owpvp might be a more enjoyable experience for everyone. 

People who says they getting alr+ced during pve is nothing but lies. Yes you are absoletly liars. You think all these people who does pvp suddenly got gear? Or cheated and got gear? I have 1.2t gear value. If you don't know let me tell you something that's lots of grinding like a lot.

The only time people alt+c or declared war to my guild and attacked me is the time when I started grinding over people.

So yeah stop lying people. 

Arsha is full of PVE, people PVE in there, the reason they go in there is for the extra drop rate. Hell i play in there for a lot of spots. Most of the time i grind in there for Infi potions, also i'm permanently in there for spots like:
Primal Giant Post, Rhutum, Saunil, Hystria, Aakman, Hell i have done plenty of Orc Camp without anyone s***** me. Hell i get back jumped more time in regular server, then in Arsha.

Now given i'm not doing the 300+ AP spots and can't say what is the situation in there. And also some very popular spots are most often taken and you have to DFS, which is the idea, and it's usually what happen in regular server, or you have to change channels.

And hell PVPVE is exactly what Arsha offer, or your imagination of what PVPVE is something completely different. 

But let's take Arsha aside. No one in here want to take you the Open World PVP. You are defending a cause, that no one even mention.

Where did i say me/we want the Open World PVP gone, or PVPVE gone ?

Show me a post of mine doing that. I have never done that.

But again just because you like PVP or PVPVE once again doesn't mean everyone likes it. A lot of people don't like to be messed up, and they want to pure play the PVE part freely in tranquility. 

So if you can pve in relative peace even on Arsha, no problem right? XD

Now, on 300 AP spots and popular spots, there's dfs, but also ks, bodythrowing and mob feeding. These are the real problems.

And again, Arsha offers a FFA owpvp, we want a owpvp with rules like the one we have on most channels. But with better rules. If you can't even understand this simple difference, stop talking about owpvp and leave this topic.

Now, there's another thing you have to understand : players who chose a game should be aware of all of its aspects. It's up to pve players to realize that they chose a game with rules they may dislike, not the contrary. By coming on BDO, not only they accepted the owpvp part of it, they also accepted the fact that they wouldn't 't necessarily be able to "pure play the pve part of it freely in tranquility". Even the pve part of BDO will not necessarily allow that! XD

So personally, here's what I want : one good set of pvpve rules for everyone. Not a specific version of BDO for every playstyle because, simply, isolating players is contrary to the idea of Mmorpg. You don't want to remove that, drop the strawman right now, but what you want will necessarily impact the owpvp. Less players, less conflicts, it can't be avoided, and Marni already proved it.