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Forcing PVP on to people is bad
07. Dez 2023, 13:17 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 19:48 (UTC)
# 11
On: Dec 7, 2023, 18:57 (UTC), Written by Kuree

I don't think griefing is really an issue anymore. They've made multiple changes to improve the situation.

• 12 hours of Marni Realm

• Guild War requires mutual consent

• 5 minute server swap cooldown

• Family-wide Karma

• And most recently, disabled the Black Robe NPC in Velia

Perhaps there could be further improvements such as changing the open-world PvP system to an opt-in (e.g War Mode from World of Warcraft) where players who have opted in gain small benefits and can attack other players who have also opted in without any penalties and the need to flag. Players who have opted out would be semi-transparent, untargetable and have a green name.

It's still a problem, and PVP should not be forced, and you have to DFS quite regularly in the busy hours. Or deal with griefers. Most spots are already taken, in literally most servers, or someone will come and start grinding over you. Good luck dealing with that. 

I'm not saying it's happening every time i play or 5 out of 10, but it's still a thing, and still enough to ruin a lot of people experience and to literally not want to play the game.

Easy solution for this. Remove this stupid 1/1 Marni, and Make Marni to be the full area, not 1/10 of the area, where you get bored to dead.

Make it so you can grind for 2-4 hours without having to CD for hour.

Also a lot of Marni spots are terrible small + the rotation on the Marni is bad.

Some are great, some are bad.

Also can PVP players stop being drama queen ? What exactly is the reason you are not playing in Arsha ? A dedicated PVP server.

And why you should have one, and PVE players should not have fully dedicated PVE one where they can freely Grind?

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 19:52 (UTC)
# 12
On: Dec 7, 2023, 19:42 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs

Another who believes he's special and refuses to use tools at his disposal to avoid those problems.

Honestly man. Im tired of stupidity. The one telling that Arsha is the solution, when failing to undarstend basic thing like PvPvE concept, the one telling go to arsha for 50% drop when there is event 50% on every server.... Im sure now that those selfish people are on forums only to troll and thay have almost or none knowledge to game... But thats the reality, the more wrong are the most whiny...

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 19:55 (UTC)
# 13
On: Dec 7, 2023, 19:42 (UTC), Written by LordBagbuna

And i don't get PVP players, you can have your open World PVP in the Arsha, with a 50% Item Drop Rate, which is a HUGE Bonus. So why are you not PVP-ing there? Enlighten us pls.

I did answer this to you on the other topic. Go read.

On: Dec 7, 2023, 19:41 (UTC), Written by LordBagbuna

Is this a troll attempt?

The huge burst player base that comes into the game was with the LOML + the more newfriendly game + PVE Focus. Boss Shrine bosses, new monster zones, etc, etc.

There was a 10k.+ player burst.

As far as the Guild Dec change, that happen in September, and the so call 5k. Steam Chart player drop was from July to August. 
Also there is months where there is always a drop in player numbers for obvious reason. 

You have to be completely blind to tell me that majority want to PVP, is that why you are all crying that Arsha is emtpy and people don't want to OWPVP ? Or is it because something else? 

Also why is the reason for Devs to changing the focus to more PVE and newplayer friendly ? Could it be because the actual majority, aka 99% of the playerbase and future players want to freely PVE, mostly for few hours after work and enjoy killing monsters, and don't want to get griefed in about 1 seconds, from someone teleporting to them ?


 Same as above. Go read.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 19:58 (UTC)
# 14
On: Dec 7, 2023, 19:48 (UTC), Written by LordBagbuna

It's still a problem, and PVP should not be forced, and you have to DFS quite regularly in the busy hours. Or deal with griefers. Most spots are already taken, in literally most servers, or someone will come and start grinding over you. Good luck dealing with that. 

I'm not saying it's happening every time i play or 5 out of 10, but it's still a thing, and still enough to ruin a lot of people experience and to literally not want to play the game.

Easy solution for this. Remove this stupid 1/1 Marni, and Make Marni to be the full area, not 1/10 of the area, where you get bored to dead.

Make it so you can grind for 2-4 hours without having to CD for hour.

Also a lot of Marni spots are terrible small + the rotation on the Marni is bad.

Some are great, some are bad.

Also can PVP players stop being drama queen ? What exactly is the reason you are not playing in Arsha ? A dedicated PVP server.

And why you should have one, and PVE players should not have fully dedicated PVE one where they can freely Grind?

Strange when I play servers are empty, except Arsha. All are on marni I guess. Are you sure you play BDO?
As for Marni, Im with you on that. They already destroyed OwMMMO part of the game, no need Marnio to be 1 hour.
For Arsha you have the answer on the other topic, Go read, I hope you will stop with this nonesence after.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 20:04 (UTC)
# 15
On: Dec 7, 2023, 19:52 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Honestly man. Im tired of stupidity. The one telling that Arsha is the solution, when failing to undarstend basic thing like PvPvE concept, the one telling go to arsha for 50% drop when there is event 50% on every server.... Im sure now that those selfish people are on forums only to troll and thay have almost or none knowledge to game... But thats the reality, the more wrong are the most whiny...

So how about you explain us the basic PVPVE concept ? Is this somethign that you comes up now, cause you have no idea what to answer?

Expain us again why are you not PVP-ing freely in Arsha ? Cause you will get your ***-kicked there, right? Cause you can't grief on people that just want to be left alone and play what they like ?

Oh there is 50% event, how often this event is though ? You have the 50% drop rate on Arsha every single day of the year, the 50% item drop rate is exactly this, something exclusive. Also do you even understand that in Arsha you will have 2x 50% Drop Rate, or your brain can't get that? Aka you will still have +50% more item drop rate. Do you even play the game, or just don't have a clue what the heck you are talking about. 
Cause it's looks like you are trying to catch for a straw.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 20:06 (UTC)
# 16
On: Dec 7, 2023, 19:58 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Strange when I play servers are empty, except Arsha. All are on marni I guess. Are you sure you play BDO?
As for Marni, Im with you on that. They already destroyed OwMMMO part of the game, no need Marnio to be 1 hour.
For Arsha you have the answer on the other topic, Go read, I hope you will stop with this nonesence after.

Is that why Arsha is never labeled as Crowded, and in peak hours most of the servers with drop rates are Crowded and full of people ?

I can prove you wrong with just 1 screenshot in Velia on the Fishing Spot. Yeah even on that. Compare every single regular server to Arsha and how many people are there. Or in any town in that matter. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 20:11 (UTC)
# 17

Also i never suggest PVP to be hurt in any way. Hell i would like more PVP modes into this game. But forcing PVP into players are just straight up bad.

I have no problem you to be able to Open World PVP, but there is dedicated server for that, do that on people that are there and want to do that as well, not on people that don't PVP or have 1 hour and want to grind, but are griefed, lose their buffs, and their hour is screwed esentially.

They can just add 1 more PVP server, or simply make Marni 3-4 hours and to be the whole grinding spot.


Again i'm not against PVP i would like to PVP in the future, but not now, where i have so much to grind for gear, and don't have 10+ hours to do both.


I don't see why is a problem for PVP players that people can PVE freely and not being forced to PVP ? Forcing someone will either make them quit the game or just do something else instead, until they get bored and still quit. It won't make them play PVP, it's that simple.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 20:14 (UTC)
# 18
On: Dec 7, 2023, 20:06 (UTC), Written by LordBagbuna

Is that why Arsha is never labeled as Crowded, and in peak hours most of the servers with drop rates are Crowded and full of people ?

I can prove you wrong with just 1 screenshot in Velia on the Fishing Spot. Yeah even on that. Compare every single regular server to Arsha and how many people are there. Or in any town in that matter. 

On: Dec 7, 2023, 20:06 (UTC), Written by LordBagbuna

Is that why Arsha is never labeled as Crowded, and in peak hours most of the servers with drop rates are Crowded and full of people ?

I can prove you wrong with just 1 screenshot in Velia on the Fishing Spot. Yeah even on that. Compare every single regular server to Arsha and how many people are there. Or in any town in that matter. 

Ahahahaha Now I see I dont need to waste more time to answer you. You got the answers but still come with this bs. You either troll or you cant aknowledge the words on your monitor. Have fun, in your delusional world. (if you read and come with normal statement, not with this BS I can have to try some converstion with you. To me atm you are either troll or hater with zero knowledge about BDO)

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 20:18 (UTC)
# 19
On: Dec 7, 2023, 18:57 (UTC), Written by Kuree

• 12 hours of Marni Realm

• Guild War requires mutual consent

• 5 minute server swap cooldown

• Family-wide Karma

• And most recently, disabled the Black Robe NPC in Velia

And I still can't calmly kill e.g. Mirumoks, crocodiles, barter or trade.

I will repeat all the time: only pve only channels can provide this (as evidenced by seasonal channels and an increase in the number of olvia channels) (and unlimited marni for all zones in the game).

And as for all this nonsense that supposedly eliminating karma expolitation reduced the number of players: it's a lie. The same update introduced a change that led to my last friends who had been playing since the premiere (and never played pvp) leaving the game: 3m for cron.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2023, 20:28 (UTC)
# 20
On: Dec 7, 2023, 20:14 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Ahahahaha Now I see I dont need to waste more time to answer you. You got the answers but still come with this bs. You either troll or you cant aknowledge the words on your monitor. Have fun, in your delusional world. (if you read and come with normal statement, not with this BS I can have to try some converstion with you. To me atm you are either troll or hater with zero knowledge about BDO)

Your excuse not to play Arsha is exactly what i though it was. Explain us again why you are not playing Arsha? Exactly, cause people there actually PVP, and what to do that, and want to DFS, which is what the intended Open World PVP was. So Arsha is functioning exactly the way the game was supposed to function. You don't get silly penalty and you can't get Karma bombed, and you can't get grief by someone who want to grind over you. You don't have that problem, as you can freely kill them.

There is 45 servers, 2 of them currently are Arsha ones, the mass majorirt of people are in the Seasonal Servers, and currently there is 5 Crowded ones, and guess what it's the one with Item buffs, aka people want to PVE freely.


I have never seen Arsha full, and it's the PVP server, if there was so much people that want to PVP freely, the server would have been crowded most of the time. Yet we have 43 servers, where they are 100% more populated, and people want to PVE freely.

This forum is guarded by few fanatics, and forums is never really a story telling, cause it's not even 0.0001% of the game population.

You have to be beyond biased to tell that in any game the PVP community is the majority. In reality it will be good if it's even 10% of it.

And you are claiming we are hating on the PVP, which is not the case, which i already explained like 100 time.

Main reason i don't play Path of Exile is there is literally no PVP.

Maybe read better next time. No one is hating on the PVP. I'm against the idea of Forcing PVP and put a half-ars**** solution to it, when the solution is easy and clear.

And why should you be threaten that the game will become empty if you claim that the majority want to PVPVE exactly ? Why you are scared of infinite Marni ? Cause you already know the answer that people actually don't want to be bother with PVP and want to freely PVE.

Most people don't like the stress of unregulated PVP in PVE game. And BDO gains the huge amount of player base this year, cause of the PVE focus.

And whether you like it or not, the game is going to transform into more PVE.

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