Lowering the Karma recovery will not deter players who play as red, because they don't care if they are negative already.

Lowering the Karma recovery will encourage people to just grind over top of other players.

As soon as that goes live, I know many people who plan on going to Dekhia grind spots and just grind over the people already there because they will be able to do nothing to retaliate.  Since Dekhia is not a Marni server enabled spot, there is no way to avoid people who want to just grief.

Explain how? No perma red player will care thats true. But why in this fantasy scenario would more non red go grief dehkia now after the change that wouldn't before. I'll go to a spot rn. You come grief me show me exactly how.

yep its true, these changes will not do anything. I will CONTINUE to blast people at vell without penalty because no one can sink me. new minimum karma? who cares, I literally lose 0 karma currently. I cant wait to see the chaos that erupts when blue players compete with each other over grind spots. And no, I will not come open a rotation for you. This change is a nerf to blue players not red ones. In fact now that I will be forced to commit to being red full time, I will have even more time to commit acts of piracy.

PA if you are reading this, remove market tax for players at -10m karma. we are criminals after all, and piracy without reward is not piracy.

There were things in place to help people from being grinded over such as 1 sided decs but PA decided to remove that. The same people that wanted mutual decs are also the ones now complaining about being grinded over. The only solution to being grinded over now is either go red or swap servers. Sorry this is an MMO, you're going to encounter other people in the game whether you want to or not. The karma recovery wasn't put to deter perma red players. It was meant to stop people from being semi red which is basically what people did to fight for their spot. I'd say if they wanted to fix this they need to either bring back 1 sided decs or make karma character only instead of family otherwise you just have to wait till they add a Marni realm for dehkia