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War-free PVE guilds
21. Mai 2021, 12:37 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 06:44 (UTC)
# 111
On: Nov 7, 2022, 09:44 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Especially for you, for the 50th time, I will quote New World dev team words:

One of the problems we observed with this system (open pvp) was that some high level players were killing low level players, A LOT. Sometimes exclusively. This often led to solo or group griefing scenarios that created a toxic environment for many players. To be clear, this behavior was not shown by all PvP players, but enough to cause significant issues.

We set out to build a compelling world full of danger and opportunity that begs to be explored. The intended design was never to allow a small group of players to bully other players. Based on what we saw, we realized that we needed to make fundamental changes and not just incremental fixes, (which we tried several times during the Closed Alpha).

There has been speculation that we have moved away from PvP, this isn’t the case at all. PvP is important to us and we are committed to ensuring it plays a significant role in our game. To be specific, by PvP we mean, fair fights that are organized, skill based, and opted into by all participants. Not PKing (Player Killing), which is a predatory behavior that relies on exploiting another player’s lack of experience, progress, readiness, or willingness. 

New World failed miserably at launch. And I saw they do not stick with their initial ideas and are just starving for attention. They will do anything for money. Even dropping their own concepts for the sake of money. I don't trust their devs. I will never play this game personally for that reason. And the last sentence in bold letters just proves my point, what kind of biased claim this is.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 07:05 (UTC)
# 112
On: Nov 10, 2022, 03:02 (UTC), Written by SEDE

New World is a terrible example as all the developers did was spit in the face of their original fanbase and long time supporters by doing a complete 180 degree turn on the core design of their game

Muuahahhaaa. What fanbase? Nobody wanted to play it as full loot open pvp. And when they changed the concept the game became number 1 on steam and number 1 mmo.

On: Nov 10, 2022, 03:20 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

The game was pretty average on release ngl, but yeah this is 100% accurate. Exploits and bugs were only part of the enconomy crash, the fact it changed design mid way through its development cycle is what messed it up.  Nearly killed it ,they have only just started to get back players now i think thats because of fresh start servers. Guess time will tell. This is a great example why you shouldnt change the game midway through development cycle as your turning on the original player base who helped maintain support the game. BDO has already released so doing what is suggest would cause major issues later down the line if not in a couple of months where they players average would spike up for a couple of weeks then completely crash to nothing.

Like any new mmo game. Don't you remember ESO premiere? It was exactly the same, after about a year the game was already playable. Now New World has created new channels and has a lot of players again.

You're angry because they blocked you from being toxic in it, so you're still here.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 08:35 (UTC)
# 113
On: Nov 10, 2022, 07:05 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Muuahahhaaa. What fanbase? Nobody wanted to play it as full loot open pvp. And when they changed the concept the game became number 1 on steam and number 1 mmo.

Like any new mmo game. Don't you remember ESO premiere? It was exactly the same, after about a year the game was already playable. Now New World has created new channels and has a lot of players again.

You're angry because they blocked you from being toxic in it, so you're still here.

Actually no, a big streamer named Asmongold was the issue for new world . Egotistical to be exact an over time exaggerated New World an its release(causing a very unreliable player base which we have all seen an is slowly returning). He full on whinged that it was full pvp in beta considering he knew the game was based around PvP. Hes done this to many games because WoW doesnt suite him anymore(not enough mounts i guess) , sure hes pretty funny and does weird sh*t . But he has some views that alot of people disagree with.

He tends to be a carebear he wont pvp if he doesnt have to. The fact he didnt say much about BDOs systems says alot. Most consider him one of the biggest carebears. Also other streamers copied him (increase their personal viewership is my guess) for new world hence the big change as higher ups wanted the free marketing. Streamers = free advertising 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 09:21 (UTC)
# 114

Wtf I was reading in this topic, don't touch of the soul of BDO, we already have Marni hour so stop complaining about pve server.
If you want PVE server you need some negative effect like less drop token or something like it who reduce the income on PVE server on it because you don't take any risk. Like Arsha have a bonus drop because people take risk to farm on it if you want PVE server you need some nerf on it.

Concerning the topic of war guild is the normal answer about people who doesn't want to dfs I don't see any reason to complaining about it on BDO who pvp is a part of the game.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 10:04 (UTC)
# 115
On: Nov 10, 2022, 08:15 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Actually no, a big streamer named Asmongold was the issue for new world .

Who cares about him? Nobody cares cancer stramers.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 10:30 (UTC)
# 116
On: Nov 10, 2022, 10:04 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Who cares about him? Nobody cares cancer stramers.

Are you kidding? Asmongold has three times the followers on twitch than New World had peak players of ALL TIME when the hype was still in full effect close to release. He has an enormous reach and influence in not only the MMORPG scene, but gaming in general and ALOT of people care about his thoughts and opinions.

On: Nov 10, 2022, 07:05 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Muuahahhaaa. What fanbase? Nobody wanted to play it as full loot open pvp. And when they changed the concept the game became number 1 on steam and number 1 mmo.

This is also a very ignorant statement, New World had a very loyal fanbase long before the average consumer even knew that the game was in development, claiming that "nobody" wanted to play it is simply not true. Sure, it probably wouldnt have had close to a million players peak if they stuck with the original concept, but it could have been a very successful niche game for a specific audience. They changed the game drastically to appeal to the masses and as evident from the numbers the game was marketed well enough to pull great numbers close to release.. and then obviously crashed heavily and ruined the games and also the devs reputation beyond repair. Even now with the overhauled early game and story quests, new region and fresh start servers I would argue that if the competition in the MMORPG market wasnt so abysmal currently the number of players in New World currently would not be NEARLY as high as they are currently. Just wait until the new WoW expansion drops and all the PvE andies will go play that instead again.
 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 11:28 (UTC)
# 117
On: Nov 10, 2022, 10:04 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Who cares about him? Nobody cares cancer stramers.

Obviously developers do.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 15:38 (UTC)
# 118
On: Nov 10, 2022, 11:28 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Obviously developers do.

Not developers but "suits". For them BDO is a table in excel. Pearl Abyss founder Kim Dae-il owns over 2b USD in assets. BDO generates millions of dollars in profit every month. But this profit began to decline. Do you know why? Because p2w always eats its own tail in the end.

Valve doesn't have to sell p2w, they don't even have to make games, just add a new pack of CSGO skins every 3 months.

BDO is a typical p2w, players unfriendly mmo. Here the only thing that matters is to sell carrack skins for over 60 EUR, not the players' fun.

Players see it and that's why they leave so quickly.

On: Nov 10, 2022, 10:30 (UTC), Written by SEDE

Are you kidding? Asmongold has three times the followers on twitch than New World had peak players of ALL TIME when the hype was still in full effect close to release. He has an enormous reach and influence in not only the MMORPG scene, but gaming in general and ALOT of people care about his thoughts and opinions. 

Asmongold will say and play whatever they pay him for. And the twitch belongs to Amazon. They sold over a million New World units and somehow I do not see them complaining that they are not enough.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Nov 2022, 15:59 (UTC)
# 119
On: Nov 10, 2022, 15:36 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Not developers but "suits". For them BDO is a table in excel. Pearl Abyss founder Kim Dae-il owns over 2b USD in assets. BDO generates millions of dollars in profit every month. But this profit began to decline. Do you know why? Because p2w always eats its own tail in the end.

Valve doesn't have to sell p2w, they don't even have to make games, just add a new pack of CSGO skins every 3 months.

BDO is a typical p2w, players unfriendly mmo. Here the only thing that matters is to sell carrack skins for over 60 EUR, not the players' fun.

Players see it and that's why they leave so quickly.

I thought BDO was dying because of owpvp. Make up your mind, please.

XD

There are around 10 to 15k players on steam alone. Do they all have a kind of Stockholm Syndrom preventing them to leave? BDO obviously have a problem with all those paying shortcuts, we don't need you to realize that.

Still, the simple existence of BDO after so many years breaks your arguments about BDO not being fun and friendly, and also making players leave quickly. 

It has its audience, even if you don't want to recognize it.

And it's not up to you to decide if we can have fun on it. 

So Senemedar, read carefully : you are WRONG.

... Again. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 07. Dez 2022, 05:12 (UTC)
# 120

Hello, Most of you in "NA" know me one way or another and KNow am all about PVE, now as much as this is a good suggestion, its HORRIBLE, If we made a Server Oposite to Arsha like Seasons maybe play there. 

HOWEVER, 

Karmabombing, and griefing will increase enormously, So with out conesquences this can not work, Live on Season servers, or Hope of an Anti-Arsha

Leave this as it is PLEASE.....

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