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Succession Sage E Buff Spam and Reset need to be addressed
Jan 18, 2023, 23:54 (UTC)
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Can we also talk about the fact he's 2 skilling people in AoS?

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30% slows with 6s cooldown hah? Removing sa buff from e buff reducing some ccs from kit should do the job, no point of complete rework the class and add even more broken mechanics 

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On: Jan 19, 2023, 05:44 (UTC), Written by ManOfKebab

30% slows with 6s cooldown hah? Removing sa buff from e buff reducing some ccs from kit should do the job, no point of complete rework the class and add even more broken mechanics 

Isn't Succession Sage the only class in the game without an attack and/or movement speed debuff? As a time themed mage, this is odd.

As I understand this Stasis skill, it creates an area of slowness. Which is great for pve, but pvp targets can just move out. So 6s is fine? 

I adore the suggestions above and hope some of it is considered. Tuning down large scale a bit but boosting the other areas where Sage does not do so well should be a healthy move.  I completely agree with Reset becoming a passive, similar to how it is on mobile. Please just give us this blue kyve looking thing Sage can summon as a buff on mobile. :D

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Last Edit : Jan 19, 2023, 13:07 (UTC)
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On: Jan 19, 2023, 12:44 (UTC), Written by Dracane

Isn't Succession Sage the only class in the game without an attack and/or movement speed debuff? As a time themed mage, this is odd.

As I understand this Stasis skill, it creates an area of slowness. Which is great for pve, but pvp targets can just move out. So 6s is fine? 

I adore the suggestions above and hope some of it is considered. Tuning down large scale a bit but boosting the other areas where Sage does not do so well should be a healthy move.  I completely agree with Reset becoming a passive, similar to how it is on mobile. Please just give us this blue kyve looking thing Sage can summon as a buff on mobile. :D

Isn't Musa only class that can not iframe spam? Lets give him iframe spam so he can dodge the pve monsters. You guys missing out the point. Just because you doesn't have slow or others have it doesn't mean you should. One of the reason they dumped damage of the class this high is missing slows. Not because succ sage is "slow" class. 

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On: Jan 19, 2023, 10:27 (UTC), Written by Rux

A close quarters slow to mitigate harm in PvE when the class has none, when every class in the game has access to attack/move slows and Guardian heals and slows on every hit and she's tankier and faster than us, is more broken than uninterrupted frags for 30 seconds on a class that already has 2 sec SA linger? 

Interesting take. Up the CD then I suppose?

Like I stressed in the post, the new skill is an additional idea. Nerfing the instant win button is the priority. 

No he doesn't need new abilities or compensate buffs over his neccesary nerfs. He was alredy performing way too good almost in any pvp area what he needed was pve buffs which they did a good job on there. But they missed the point on pvp because those pve buffs leaked into pvp and made him outright unfair to fight against.

The reason succ sage had cc on all of his abilities because abilities were unprotected now you can literally play with perma protection thanks to sa buff and fg void with millions of cc attempts.

As said it to you before wait till aos showed up and I gurentee you succ sage will be 2k+ elo class with his initial changes and I was right. He didn't needed slows he doesn't need now either he can outperform almost any class in aos now.

As it comes to survival of pve he doesn't need slows for that again because damage buff he got and spearbolt iframe single handedly changed that. I'm not gonna even mention magic dp break, you got me. 

Last Edit : Jan 19, 2023, 13:16 (UTC)
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On: Jan 19, 2023, 13:07 (UTC), Written by ManOfKebab

Isn't Musa only class that can not iframe spam? Lets give him iframe spam so he can dodge the pve monsters. You guys missing out the point. Just because you doesn't have slow or others have it doesn't mean you should. One of the reason they dumped damage of the class this high is missing slows. Not because succ sage is "slow" class. 

No, Musa is not the only class, just one of them. Nothing wrong with adding pve iframes either. Forward collisions suck anyway.

I do not think Sage absolutely necessarily needs slows when the damage holds up in direct encounters, but it seems like a reasonable compromise when the slow is confinded to a small area. It would leave pvp largely unaffected.


But I could be misunderstanding the proposed skill.

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Last Edit : Jan 19, 2023, 13:21 (UTC)
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On: Jan 19, 2023, 13:13 (UTC), Written by ManOfKebab

No he doesn't need new abilities or compensate buffs over his neccesary nerfs. He was alredy performing way too good almost in any pvp area what he needed was pve buffs which they did a good job on there. But they missed the point on pvp because those pve buffs leaked into pvp and made him outright unfair to fight against.

The reason succ sage had cc on all of his abilities because abilities were unprotected now you can literally play with perma protection thanks to sa buff and fg void with millions of cc attempts.

As said it to you before wait till aos showed up and I gurentee you succ sage will be 2k+ elo class with his initial changes and I was right. He didn't needed slows he doesn't need now either he can outperform almost any class in aos now.

As it comes to survival of pve he doesn't need slows for that again because damage buff he got and spearbolt iframe single handedly changed that. I'm not gonna even mention magic dp break, you got me. 

When Sage is the only class being forced to dodge around at Hexe for the sake of pure survival, this already puts him at a great disadvantage and prevents him from pulling good numbers. Other classes don't have to do this. They can dps freely and only dash to benefit from back attacks.

As for Arena of Solare. Is it so bad when Sage also has a place on the leaderboards? Many classes have been camping there since AoS came out and nobody was bothered. With Sage it's an issue? Why should he have less privilege than all other classes? I agree though that Pearl Abyss must take care to not give him so many protections, because that defeats the balance of the class. He still has a looot of unprotected stuff (which we only not notice yet because E buff still has 15s SA), but they should not go further.

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