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[AoS] Simple fixes to Solare before ranked returns
Dec 11, 2023, 22:02 (UTC)
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Last Edit : Dec 11, 2023, 22:03 (UTC)
# 1

Solare can be much better.

- Remove all non-normal game existing accessories and crystals

- Adjust gear to match current existing endgame gear so that actual class balance adjustments can be made based upon AoS performance

- Adjust class stats and class-v-class table to match the game outside of AoS so that actual balance adjustments can be made upon AoS performance
- Remove BSR gain during down-time. BSR is only gained when the round is live.
- Make Practice Available 24/7

- Add `Current Players in Que` Counter
- Change Win/Lose screen to include the Score

Previous AoS post with more details here, but these changes would already go a very long way to making AoS more enjoyable and a better environment to pre-test future PvP changes on the live server. 

Last Edit : Dec 11, 2023, 22:48 (UTC)
# 2

Also,

-Make the map close towards the center as time goes buy like in Tournaments to prevent over-kiting from classes with insane movement

-Remove 200% BSR in AOS

Last Edit : Dec 12, 2023, 07:44 (UTC)
# 3
On: Dec 11, 2023, 22:02 (UTC), Written by Zoroaster

- Adjust gear to match current existing endgame gear so that actual class balance adjustments can be made based upon AoS performance

- Adjust class stats and class-v-class table to match the game outside of AoS so that actual balance adjustments can be made upon AoS 

So you want game to be 1 shot fiesta like openworld.

Not to mention you will be getting damaged by 3 end game geared player you will not be one shotted rather you will be deleted in a half a second. Guessing not much a open world player ey? 

Just rotate sa damage till your opponent dies.

Player with more iframes rules the arena. 

You can already make class balance adjustments based on solare, i don't know what you talking about. Classes who meta in solare also meta in openworld. 

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Last Edit : Dec 12, 2023, 12:22 (UTC)
# 4
On: Dec 12, 2023, 07:44 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

So you want game to be 1 shot fiesta like openworld.

Not to mention you will be getting damaged by 3 end game geared player you will not be one shotted rather you will be deleted in a half a second.  

The whole point is adjusting it to the main game so that the one-shot meta can be adjusted altogether and address the open-world game consequently. Guessing you're not much of a far thinker ey?

On: Dec 12, 2023, 07:44 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

Guessing not much a open world player ey? 

As for qualifications, I've got 10k+ score in RBF, 1622 Shining Spear II in solare, I was extensively active in Eu PvP in the top siege/nw guilds for years (not anymore). I pvp so much, that I am only 720 Gearscore after 4000+ hrs of playing. What are yours o-wise-sage?

On: Dec 12, 2023, 07:44 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

Player with more iframes rules the arena. 

I don't know where you're getting this, since you are literally stating the oposite in the next sentence. Drakania doesn't have the most iframes and she rules the arena. Go make a succ sorc tag and see how much you will rule the arena. This statement kinda puts a dent in your qualifications to say anything, even as a {succ} sage abuser in AoS {if you do that}.

On: Dec 12, 2023, 07:44 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

You can already make class balance adjustments based on solare, i don't know what you talking about. Classes who meta in solare also meta in openworld. 

Adjustments for something that you've stated yourself, you are just nearsighted to be able to see it. Adjustments so that 1-shot meta goes away. Adjustments so that Drakania doesn't deal 978351795135136975136975% more damage and heal triple the rest of the classes. Adjustments so that Awk Ranger/Archer damage gets tuned down to the ground and so on and so on. Adjustments to those same classes that are also meta in the openworld.

Now you can't adjust anything according to AoS because it's a completely different game. Different stats. Different gear. Only thing that remains the same is the skills and addons {although even those don't function the same}. So yea, its really not representative of the real game, especially with the crystals and accessories added into it that don't exist elsewhere.

Last Edit : Dec 12, 2023, 13:28 (UTC)
# 5

The one shot meta can not be addressed in the open world because game is power creeped to hard it's not just classes it's also items. What you want is basically a miracle which is never gonna happen.

If you have played solare in eu you would ve known me because if you click rankings I'm at 17 and so far I have played over 3k games and I don't play succession sage I play awakening. And I don't ever see you in ow and everyone know I'm an arsha pvp enjoyer so nice lie over there. 

What would you think gonna happen if you can one shot people? The class who most iframe will rule it by simply playing for time. It's called strategy something very useful you should use it maybe it would get you over 1622

PA already said they are also using solare to balance classes.

Stop trying to find excuse for your bad skills, instead keep spamming games till you become a good player. 

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Last Edit : Dec 12, 2023, 16:31 (UTC)
# 6
On: Dec 12, 2023, 13:28 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

The one shot meta can not be addressed in the open world because game is power creeped to hard it's not just classes it's also items. What you want is basically a miracle which is never gonna happen.

This is defeatist thinking. The OP does say to remove (inexisting) accessories, crystals AND adjust gear to endgame gear. Please answer the following questions:

1. How do you expect metrics to be gained for balance from AoS when the gear in it doesn't reflect the real open world?

2. How do you expect 1-shot OW meta to be adjusted (to match AoS better, assuming that's what we want) if AoS doesn't reflect the real open world?

3. Why do you want AoS to be a separate game from the real open world in terms of Stats, Crystals and Gear?

4. Why don't you want end-game open-world builds to be implemented in AoS?

5. Why don't you want the 1-shot meta in open-world to be adjusted?

6. Is the game supposed to NOT adjust because it has not been adjusted so far and you don't believe the PA team is capable of doing it?

On: Dec 12, 2023, 13:28 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

If you have played solare in eu you would ve known me because if you click rankings I'm at 17 and so far I have played over 3k games and I don't play succession sage I play awakening. And I don't ever see you in ow and everyone know I'm an arsha pvp enjoyer so nice lie over there. 

Kudos to you for playing awekening and so many games, good job. I've ground over 50 hrs at DSR since it's release on arsha, cya tonight.

On: Dec 12, 2023, 13:28 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

What would you think gonna happen if you can one shot people? The class who most iframe will rule it by simply playing for time. It's called strategy something very useful you should use it maybe it would get you over 1622

Ignoring your ad-hominem, the point is not for everyone one-shotting each other, but actually using 1-to-1 (AOS-to-OW) data to adjust Items and Classes so that the game becomes more uniform overall.

On: Dec 12, 2023, 13:28 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

PA already said they are also using solare to balance classes.

The only way to do this is to make Solare 1-to-1 in everything so that it reflects the real game. With the crazy crystals it has along with the OP accessories, compounded by the equalized stats (which we don't enjoy in the OW), it's a completely different petri dish that spews false data in regards to balancing OW.  It's essentially a stand-alone game in regards to data for balancing.

On: Dec 12, 2023, 13:28 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

Stop trying to find excuse for your bad skills, instead keep spamming games till you become a good player. 

I guess your brain is fried from too much lightning and spamming games but at least try to make it somehow related to the OP so that you are edgier when you can only retort to ad-hominem thrice, Try thinking about the ideas for a second.

Last Edit : Dec 13, 2023, 06:01 (UTC)
# 7

Didn't read too long. LOOOOOOOOL

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Last Edit : Dec 13, 2023, 11:49 (UTC)
# 8
On: Dec 13, 2023, 06:01 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

Didn't read too long. LOOOOOOOOL

Ok buddy. Good talk.

Last Edit : Dec 14, 2023, 15:01 (UTC)
# 9
On: Dec 13, 2023, 06:01 (UTC), Written by CCaJJ

Didn't read too long. LOOOOOOOOL

Of course not, he contridicted all the points you never had, Id be too embarrassed to continue reading too. Good thing about forums is the responces arnt just for the individual, it wasnt for you directly, but for anyone who has such a defeatist attitude like you.

Last Edit : Dec 15, 2023, 06:43 (UTC)
# 10
On: Dec 14, 2023, 15:01 (UTC), Written by Kynreaa

Of course not, he contridicted all the points you never had, Id be too embarrassed to continue reading too. Good thing about forums is the responces arnt just for the individual, it wasnt for you directly, but for anyone who has such a defeatist attitude like you.

Yeah bro asking same question repeating urself like a parrot is condritics my points. XD. I'm not argue with a guy who plays 5 games and says buff every single succ sorc ability damage, reduce its cooldown and increase its aoe. The dude has absolutely 0 clue about what's he talking about. Me discussing an item with him me discussing with a wall, my questions bounced back at me with different forms 

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