Well this is a game where the sun rises in the west and sets in the east...lol. It's little wonder they get things backward...

3.5k. Hours into the game, can post a screenshot from Steam account as well if needed.

That Crystal move made me Quit and Uninstall the game.  Sold all my gear and roulette with Cron Stone on my Silent Dahn’s Gloves and Black Spirit also showing me the f****, just like PA did to all of us.

I have also supported the game, as i have brought all steam game package/bundles/dlc and have brought seperately Pearls/Acoins. Probably arround 100 Euro, seperately from the bundles.

I had plenty of fun in the game, but after you play for awhile a lot of things starting to make no sense at all, and you feel like you are losing your time.

I have high end PC, but that still doesn't stop the game to feel slugish on a lot of monsters zone after playing for couple of hours. PVP was not my thing in this game, even though at first i wanted to gear and do exactly that, but being forced into that literally made my mind to not like it in this game.

Selling point to quitting though was Monsters Zone are just brainless going into very little circle(in most areas), and just the same stuff for thousands of hours, and the main main point was the crystals.

At the beginning of my journey until recently i didn't have a problem with the Crystal Systems. 

But after i start losing billions and hours of my precious time just to get back to where i was, and most of the time it wasn't my fault at all. Either random crash of the game, or game freezing and next moment i'm dead. We also had a few power failure in the building, which is very rare in my country, but it's still can happen, which make me mad about a completely unfair Crystal that i hope they going to change and make it fair. But no, their solution was to make it P2W.

I hope they lose a lot of playerbase because of this decision, as this ain't a SP game, where you can pause in every single moment and when DC/Crash/ETC happen your crystals are safe.

A lot of the End Game Zones also have mechanics that you need to go out and try and get used to the spot and death can happen in a lot of them, even if you have better gear than the recommended one.

And i refuse to watch clips over every single spot so i can see the mechanics, as this also make no sense, as it's essentially spoiling the fun and ruin the game for me.

I hope the one that take the decision and the answer for all our feedback about the crystals is happy. 

I will write a long review in Steam about the game in very details, so people can know what to expect, and not waste their time like i feel right now wasted my time with this game.

vince carter "it's over" gif.

Everyone here have same feelings...and I think PA knows where it's going so they milking as much as they can. 

For me, 3m per cron was a big mistake, endless grinding to get nothing back. Right now we need 30h for single debo attempt with only 15% success rate? So there is 85% chance that you'll stay with nothing but disappointment after 30h of grinding. We have life, family, hobbies so grinding for 30h only to get nothing back is not fun at all.

I love this game combat system and I truly like grinding but i want something back, enough is enough. I spent long hours at Darkseekers to get my flame, sometimes I had 2 sometimes 6 or even 0 embers per hour but every single ember was leading me to my goal so i was exited to keep going. When it comes to silver grinding or debo attempt, after 30h with unsuccessful attempt, you'll have to start once again to have (probably) same results. 

Looks like this is my end of adventure, unfortunately PA don't even care about posts here so our voice is silent. Good luck everyone, maybe something will change in future.

For me last week update was final straw to take a longer break from game as other options with closed betas arrived to try out something fresh. Sadly I have more fun there. Sadly because I loved BDO for past 2 years and its sad to see its going the direction it is. Being rn 726gs with pen bs and treasure artifacts and all pieces of FG....

1) Server/client stability is barely holding on. Optimization went down by a lot. Im tired of playing in low spec war just to have my musa attack at proper speed due to +100 fps. My pc could handle remastered combat np but that was +1 year ago when game behaved better. Now not only it renders badly, plays badly, u also have plenty rng crashes no matter what u do and what settings u have. Events are completely sluggish too due to players and mounts swarming place and game simply not handling it anymore. War of roses is a joke.

2) Gear progression went from trying to grind consistently to progress gear slowly, to personally not seeing point into even grinding anymore since PA will "make it easier anyway". Literally anything. I am 100% sure guaranteed PEN BS is on its way slowly because they want everyone to catch up to their XX copy paste Dekhia spot or whatever unfinished content with another flame they add. They added 100% enchant fs a bit too late. Better late than never tho. Also with new hammer added there is even less incentive to grind less rewarding tend game spots with debos since all u need is silver to buy new hammers, and as I see Deboreka chest made its way to login reward. Daily debo when? I'm sure its coming :)) Don't take me wrong, its okay to make some things easier, like enchancing but these days before going anywhere I'm wondering "Is there any point struggling now? Cus maybe they add pities/make it easier/improve chance etc." or you simply just need silver so u go back to lower ap spots because trash is guaranteed, better and not rng.

3) Everything about fresh released zones, so here would be Ulukita feels unfinished and rushed. Towns have no purpose, no buildings to invest, nothing to get from nodes, no gathering. Just a spot to stop by for a week or two, to get item and leave. And we even had to wait to get some broom closet in Muzgar just to get furniture buffs for flame grind. What's the point of releasing such zones other than some 1 month occupational grind?

4) All Dekhia spots are also pointless. We still have just 1 spot for necklace which is boring Ash Forest and one spot for belt. Everything else Dekhia is earrings only with same ap/dp stats. Why???? What's the point of 10 same grind zones with same reward? Would be better to get item drop that u exchange for type of accessory u want from those. Also there is no point to even progress that far since there is no real reward to it. If i can already grind all the zones, why bother further if there is nothing else beyond it. Also dekhia spots, debo spots are much less trash rewarding and silver is what we need most rn with new hammer so back to old zones anyway like trolls. There is nothing interesting about end game zones and nothing to grind there. If they added more grindable skins, pets, anything maybe....rn its just boring.

5) We need more party spots, much more. Oluns and turos doesn't cut it. This game needs some kind of party marni realm with increased difficulty upon entering or something. Instead the only social part of grind that recently is getting promoted by PA is griefieng. Grinding with friends is always more fun than spinning alone in circles.  

6) And when talking about griefieng, PA absolutely doesn't do anything about the issue but further push on "Just swap server or suffer downgrade if u try to defend your spot". The beggining of this game was all about defending your spot and conflict matter. Now it turned into grief paradise where forced pvp button only punishes you. You either swap server, go marni only or grind along griefers...fun! Whats the point of the pvp button then? Remove it, if it has no point and just give more arsha servers.

7) Crystal loss has been talked for so long that I am amazed they managed to ignore it for this long. The pearl item was the final nail for me. Most deaths happen due to server freeze/crash or pure instability of the game and people lose bilions of silver worth of crystals for it. We wanted durability on crystals to minimaze the lose.  Yet PA went the cash shop way instead of stating and agreeing that servers are just bad at this point and we shouldnt suffer lose due to it. P.s console still doesn't lose crystals and its fine there. So for me this also doesn't motivate me keep grinding higher zones where I can suffer rng loss due to game instability. 

8) I can clearly see they keep releasing some Step Ups now in pearl shop with most of the time rng items since January. They stopped giving away any coupons. All new outfits are locked from CM. And the slap of the button "purchase outfit" on a log off screen is just laughable. I can say they are getting desperate but with all the issues above and state of game itself, they don't deserve money, at least not mine. I am always happy to support the game but when I see they actually did some good work towards content and optimization. Not greed made of sweaters and sport shoes. Also most money comes from EU/NA market yet they ignore what our actual market wants....No thank you then...

Its time for a break.

1. PA went to monetize their buggy game with the crystal restoration crystals.
2. PA making Korean players happy with the new pearl shop, but milking the NA/EU for it.

3. PA rushing content that turns out bland and pointless in months (Whole of Ulukita is just that: unfinished mess, from terrain to story and activities).

4. PA prioritizing convenience over lore and immersion.

5. PA removing the reason to play the game completely, because there's nothing to gear up for, no skins, no pets, not blings to get and have fun while at. And just treading the wheel for the guaranteed pen taps is not what I consider fun, even more so when a few months later, that grind is made pointless with "gifts".

6. Almost 50€ monthly subs are an insult (when everything else is also bleedingly expensive), especially these days when stability is how it is, content is how it is.

I have  played and supported this game for almost 25k hour . I've seen the game rise. I'm seeing the game fall... A damn shame! I thought Land of the Morning Light will be BDO's return to grace, but it turned out to be its swan song. 

P.S: The only reedeming aspect of Black Desert these days is the GM Guild, but they alone can't keep the game afloat when PA's marketing and design departments are drilling holes all over its hull.

If they at least read the many crystal-related threads, they should know what kind of backlash they would create by throwing single crystal restoration per year for the price of AAA game on sale in the shop. I am really starting to think now that I was wrong about their ability to make more good than bad decisions. Maybe they forgot to delete one "0" from the price if this is supposed to be the final solution? Heh.

Maybe their trying to surprise us at heidal lmaoooo (me huffing copium)

I hope they pay you to write these posts cuz if you're doing it for free then that's really sad lol

this is not a smart way to look at it.

those things are not just coincidence. the problem is not with non-essnetial things being in the shop, i will never fault them for cosmetics, overpriced as they might be, but this is something else.  they intentionally dont fix issues or introduce faulty systems (i.e. crystals breaking) to charge people for it.

this is wrong for the same reasons planned obsolescence (companies making worse quality products on prupose so they last shorter and you need to pay for repair/new model) is.

of course, every mmorpg without a strict subscription fee does this to some extent (and that always sucks) but in BDO this is EVERYWHERE. every single aspect of this game is monetized. it's offputting and makes the game very hard to recommend. 

idk why some people get so defensive about this. i get it, this is your favourite game, it's my favourite game too, but we don't have to fool anyone. monetization in this game is absolutely cringe