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#Meinung
Please stop forcing PvP
16. Jul 2021, 20:03 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 15. Nov 2022, 09:55 (UTC)
# 51
On: Nov 15, 2022, 09:34 (UTC), Written by Lair360


Crimson Desert is an Openworld "single-player" game. If they are going to add Co-op/group play then the majority will think about moving away from BDO. If not, then the PVE/Life Skillers will look for another game.

At this point, nobody except devs know if it will be a MMO or not. XD

We'll see when they finally release it. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 15. Nov 2022, 09:58 (UTC)
# 52
On: Nov 15, 2022, 09:46 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

This. Crimson Desert it's not an mmo game. It's Open-World Action Adventure so typical sandbox with tpp view and fight + coop as option.

But which one? FF14 - subscription, ESO - "optional" mandatory subscription, New World - 2500 players limit per channel and you can't change channel.


FF14, you can take that out. Their login system is really bad and toxic. I lost my account due to their incompetent system login! There is no way to recover it and many left as well because of that. Also, the game is not even close to BDO. But I do see that New World is a contender. It will take time to become better. Hey, Rome isn't built in a day! Also... if everyone can wait? "Blue Protocol". Have a look!

Finally, Ashes of Creation! Look that up as well...

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 15. Nov 2022, 12:03 (UTC)
# 53
On: Nov 15, 2022, 09:57 (UTC), Written by Lair360


FF14, you can take that out. Their login system is really bad and toxic. I lost my account due to their incompetent system login! There is no way to recover it and many left as well because of that. Also, the game is not even close to BDO. But I do see that New World is a contender. It will take time to become better. Hey, Rome isn't built in a day! Also... if everyone can wait? "Blue Protocol". Have a look!

Finally, Ashes of Creation! Look that up as well...

Throne and Liberty... nothing more to say. Ashes seems good on paper, heavily PvP, which is great, but visuals have problems, not like TL that look amasing, but not much info on gameplay.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 15. Nov 2022, 12:06 (UTC)
# 54
On: Nov 15, 2022, 12:03 (UTC), Written by IWalkAlone

Throne and Liberty... nothing more to say. Ashes seems good on paper, heavily PvP, which is great, but visuals have problems, not like TL that look amasing, but not much info on gameplay.


Understable. But as said: if everyone can wait?? Ashes may have a better system that will balance PVX much better, we will see?

For now, I will stick with BDO and have as much fun with my friends. :)

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 15. Nov 2022, 14:13 (UTC)
# 55

Just as soon as you make PVE servers the only thing that will happen is people trying to out clear each other which would be just another form of PVP that is even more annoying. This game is built around competition & if you don't like there are plenty of other games out there that doesn't have any. Just find a different server like everyone else it's not rocket science.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Nov 2022, 07:31 (UTC)
# 56

On: Nov 15, 2022, 05:57 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

THESE mmo's? Their way AS USUAL?

I didn't mean this mmo specifically just ones in general, and yes in my experience the majority of mmo's do in fact cater to PvP and completely ignore PvE community. An example of this is ESO. For years now PvE players have been practically begging the devs to stop nerfing everything useful in the game every 3 months or so but PvPers are constantly on the forums whining and crying that this armor set is overpowered or this skill is too strong and devs end up nerfing it across the board for everyone. How is that fair? It's the main reason why I left the game. I spent 3-4 years of my life building my toons up to make them STRONG only for devs to nerf everything in the ground and now they couldn't even beat up a small runt of a child! So yes, mmo's DO in fact cater to PvP players and if you think for a second that they don't, then you're only fooling yourself.

But in the spirit of fairness and compromise, let's say they DON'T in fact add PvE servers, why not add an option that players can turn on or off that allows or prohibits other players from attacking them? It would be very simple for devs to include that in an update with minimal effort on their part while solving the problem for both communities. No PvE only servers, no more afk lifeskillers getting pk'ed, no more EXCUSES. This is basically asking the bare minimum of PA and there is no excuse good enough as to why this can't be put in the game, and anyone who disagrees with this and tries to argue it down is more than likely one of the toxic af griefers who just likes to kill random ppl and is the main reason why the PvE community is so upset in the first place! 

The PvP community IS GOING TO meet us halfway on this issue and compromise with us about a solution to this, either sooner or later it's gonna happen so the devs might as well just accept the fact that we are NOT going to shut up about this and give us some option to turn off PvP for our toon at least or something simple like that. Deal. With. It.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Nov 2022, 08:23 (UTC)
# 57
On: Nov 17, 2022, 07:31 (UTC), Written by OldWorldMonk

On: Nov 15, 2022, 05:57 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

THESE mmo's? Their way AS USUAL?

I didn't mean this mmo specifically just ones in general, and yes in my experience the majority of mmo's do in fact cater to PvP and completely ignore PvE community. An example of this is ESO. For years now PvE players have been practically begging the devs to stop nerfing everything useful in the game every 3 months or so but PvPers are constantly on the forums whining and crying that this armor set is overpowered or this skill is too strong and devs end up nerfing it across the board for everyone. How is that fair? It's the main reason why I left the game. I spent 3-4 years of my life building my toons up to make them STRONG only for devs to nerf everything in the ground and now they couldn't even beat up a small runt of a child! So yes, mmo's DO in fact cater to PvP players and if you think for a second that they don't, then you're only fooling yourself.

But in the spirit of fairness and compromise, let's say they DON'T in fact add PvE servers, why not add an option that players can turn on or off that allows or prohibits other players from attacking them? It would be very simple for devs to include that in an update with minimal effort on their part while solving the problem for both communities. No PvE only servers, no more afk lifeskillers getting pk'ed, no more EXCUSES. This is basically asking the bare minimum of PA and there is no excuse good enough as to why this can't be put in the game, and anyone who disagrees with this and tries to argue it down is more than likely one of the toxic af griefers who just likes to kill random ppl and is the main reason why the PvE community is so upset in the first place! 

The PvP community IS GOING TO meet us halfway on this issue and compromise with us about a solution to this, either sooner or later it's gonna happen so the devs might as well just accept the fact that we are NOT going to shut up about this and give us some option to turn off PvP for our toon at least or something simple like that. Deal. With. It.

Black Desert was made on the concept to be PvX(PvPvE) from day one. We don't need egoistical ideas to change the game from it's core idea.

What was happening in ESO I don't know. What was ESO's concept from it's prelaunch and launch I don't know. I never played this game and I won't comment what's good or not there. In reality here the PvE zealots-carebears demand too much here. PA offered you marni realms and seasonals, since it's not in their interest to make PvE servers. There were many PvE topics(even from the old forums) and in the end? No PvE server as a result. There. I am showing my disagreement to this emotional text. Call me now things I am not in reality. ;)

Deal. With. It.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Nov 2022, 09:50 (UTC)
# 58
On: Nov 17, 2022, 07:31 (UTC), Written by OldWorldMonk

But in the spirit of fairness and compromise, let's say they DON'T in fact add PvE servers, why not add an option that players can turn on or off that allows or prohibits other players from attacking them? It would be very simple for devs to include that in an update with minimal effort on their part while solving the problem for both communities. No PvE only servers, no more afk lifeskillers getting pk'ed, no more EXCUSES. This is basically asking the bare minimum of PA and there is no excuse good enough as to why this can't be put in the game, and anyone who disagrees with this and tries to argue it down is more than likely one of the toxic af griefers who just likes to kill random ppl and is the main reason why the PvE community is so upset in the first place! 

The PvP community IS GOING TO meet us halfway on this issue and compromise with us about a solution to this, either sooner or later it's gonna happen so the devs might as well just accept the fact that we are NOT going to shut up about this and give us some option to turn off PvP for our toon at least or something simple like that. Deal. With. It.


That turn on/turn off function will be easy, yes and very easy tool to grief. Tell me what would stop me do go to other people rotation and just grind over them. Specialy wit class that outgrinds them easy? So yea there is realy good excuse why to not implement it. And no Im not toxic griefer, I never steal other spots. But with same atitude I can say that only a griefer can come with such an Idea.
I say it many times, I dont mind one PvE server because I think it wont change much the game, no more than Arsha ot Marni did. But I prefer to remove all of them and just find a working outlaw system. It will make the game more colorful, more interesting.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Nov 2022, 14:51 (UTC)
# 59

I don't think turning off pvp might me an option.

But considering the amount of threads on the subjet, PA might be considering PvE servers in the future or any other kind of answer... But who am I to tell?

The subject seems of matter for lots of players though...

My own opinion is in the middle: I'd like to see PvE servers too, but I also think that you gain more exp in lifeskilling when you take risks. It's rewardable. That's why you have those lifeskill boosts on Arsha. That's also why you gain more (xp and money) in combat zone, not in safe zone, while lifeskilling (training, fishing...).

Then, PvE servers would mean less lifeskill xp right? Otherwise it would be like giving everything without any effort compared to normal servers...

So, turning off pvp should give less lifeskilling xp then, don't you think? Cause it would be the same problem otherwise.

Also, BDO remains a pvxvp game. When I lifekill, I deal with the danger if I want it to be efficient, or I do it in a safe zone if I just want it to be quiet.

And about toxic players, yes, there are. But - and I only speak from my own experience here - it's not everyday you encounter them. They might ruin "a moment" but not the game.

On: Nov 17, 2022, 08:22 (UTC), Written by Krastonosezs

Call me now things I am not in reality. ;)

Nobody is calling you anything bro. ;)

But if you say any shit, don't worry, I'll tell you! ;p

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Nov 2022, 10:42 (UTC)
# 60
On: Nov 17, 2022, 10:33 (UTC), Written by PriseElectrique

Nobody is calling you anything bro. ;)

But if you say any shit, don't worry, I'll tell you! ;p

I am well aware. It's just a display that I am prepared to face it.

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