Oh, so you want to selfishly push your ideals on the rest of us that are enjoying the game the way it was designed? So instead of choosing one of the dozens of other PvE mmo's, you want to force the one that wanted to be different into being the same as every other mmo, because you cant accept something being different?

Do you make fun of disabled people? Actual question.

And I disagree with yours. :) You don't want to and selfishly are trying to avoid finding a common ground, trying to tell us we should stick with your opinions. That's what it is. Not going to happen.

That's fine, but don't assume me to be a Pk-er who just Pk's new, or, "unwilling", players for no good reason.

I chose BDO over the others because it's different.  Pk's aren't even that bad on normal channel.  The only reasons I can think of is, 1) A red player (ok in my book because they assume the consequences for being red, it's balanced in a way), 2) Dec'd guild, 3) You went into someone's claimed rotation, 4) Lifeskilling outside safe zone above level 49 by a bored person.

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EDIT:  4) "Bad" DFS interactions.  Where one person comes off as a jerk, or snobby / snooty, and the other gets offended and flags.

IDK if anyone Pk's and says "spot taken" anymore on normal channel these days.  Since people know doing that will just result in them getting Karma Bombed.

I am not  asking for anything that  will change the way that you enjoy the game. I am not  asking for the complete removal of your beloved open world pvp. What I and many others are asking for  is a few dedicated pve servers to which the players that elect to play there are locked. This will have next to no impact upon you.

No I never make fun of disabled people and that question has nothing to do with this thread.

So you pvp players are the only ones allowed to have an opinion. Good to know that you are part of the ever prevalent cancel culture.

I never said you were however that bit was meant to be tongue in cheek. I am sure that a lot of you keen pvp players do not lower yourselves to that level.

No matter that though, you are all far too keen to press others to follow your ideals about the game and totally against us differing.

The core game is designed around fighting over resources. Perma PvE servers devalue that. Yes, it would absolutely have an inpact on the rest of us.You're not getting PvE servers. You never will get PvE servers. You're a selfish twitter twat trying to force your ideals on people like Kim Jong Un.

You need to get over it.

So you pve players are the only ones allowed to have an opinion? Nice. "Only my own words matter. The others can S it." That's how I understand it from your perspective.

Yes, because we were here first. We bought the game knowing what it was. I dont go into a vegan restaurants and ask they serve me steak.

You're a selfish twitter twat.