>Mystic does not feel viable in PVE when you need to grind for money for accessories and upgrades

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Mystic main since 2018, I'd like to chip in with some suggestions.

I haven't played Succ at all, I can only comment on Awa.

We've seen some smaller SA gap removals from Striker already in these rework previews, I'd expect the same to happen for Mystic (e. g. making Flows used after Twisted fully SA). I'd also like to see these SA gaps removed on Gushing (which has a very short and unreliable SA frame) as well as the BON Torpedo in Awa.

I don't understand why Striker kept his FG on Twisted while Mystic had hers removed. I suggest adding FG back to the Mystic skill or removing it for Striker as well.

I'd also like to see a slight increase in the iframe duration on Silent Step to match the actual animation, this iframe is very unreliable and shorter than it should be.

I think Awa Mystic is in a somewhat mediocre spot in PvP right now. The slows are still strong despite the newly implemented cap, which, by the way, was a good decision - 99% slows should not be in the game. Awa trades Succ's damage for more usability such as the vacuum and the slows, making her relatively viable in group fights, but she has no FG in Awa (unless you use BON skills, but there is never any reason to pick anything that isn't the Torpedo BON, unfortunately), making her a potentially squishy frontline. This encourages a hit-and-run playstyle in group fights. However, her mini PA can be helpful in these situations.

The issue here is that this kind of gameplay is not engaging. Dash in, maybe Torpedo in, drop a vacuum, maybe get grabbed, maybe survive, drop a Shift+Q, run for your life.

Nova and Valk vacuums are way stronger and don't lock them in their animations with no escape. (Awa) Novas will be able to escape quickly in dangerous situations, Valks have strong FG as well as a heal. This makes Awa Mystic a rather mediocre frontline in comparison.

Awa makes for a decent duelist, engage options include Wolf's Frenzy, Rapid Stream, Torpedo, Pre-Awa dash+Elbow Edge, dash+grab (though nowhere near as fast as a Solar Flare grab). A smart and permanent appliaction of slows is essential when it comes to Awa dueling.

Damage combos will have to include Pre-Awa skills, Awa alone is usually not enough. Rarely will you have 3 shards available for all applicable skills, a problem that Striker doesn't even have to consider.

Striker also has Ferocious Assault, a very useful skill to engage, avoid obstacles and escape dangerous situations. Mystic has no equivalent, Sea Burial won't get you very far. Perhaps an equivalent skill could be introduced.

I enjoy grinding on Mystic, the ability to permanently have a 20% attack speed boost as well as a strong movement speed boost make getting around rather enjoyable.

Gushing was a great addition to make her Awa kit flow nicely, but I am still forced to switch to Pre-Awa for at least one damage/FG skill while grinding. The damage of Absolute skills is beyond underwhelming, the Rabams are a bit better (except for Iron Fist Fury), but the damage does not compare to Awakening in PvE.

This is why I'd like to see a new skill/a reworked damage skill with FG that can be useful in both PvE and PvP. This would allow her to use one more Awa skill in PvP combos, especially in group fights. This would also allow players to stay in Awa all the time in PvE without feeling forced to switch to the underwhelming Pre-Awa.

One concern I have are the new Accuracy buffs to many skills on other classes. This might make Evasion builds no longer viable in the future, which is a problem for players like me who have committed to this kind of gear. I'd thus suggest adding Evasion buffs to additional Mystic skills.

These suggestions are mostly based on the current, pre-rework state of the game. I think Awa Mystic is a pretty solid and relatively strong class in both PvE and 1v1-3v3. Her Node War viability may be considered debatable, other classes fill her role much better.

Some people have made suggestions regarding bug fixes such as falling animations during Sea Burial or Twisted Flows, some have also pointed out the blatant discrepancy between Striker and Mystic, I wholeheartedly agree with those.

I believe that no "extreme" changes are needed in order to improve her gameplay, but there is plenty of room for improvement.

o/

It may just be me, but It seems as if the later a rework is in the list, the less consideration they get for what they need.   This last round of reworks released today seem to have done little for the classes that needed them most.  In fact, some of the recent classes got nothing at all that needed fixing.  I realize that there is pressure to get it done but mediocrity in this task will just mean many more years of imbalance.  Quality and balance are more important than a self-imposed deadline.  With Mystic in the last batch, I have concerns.  

Please PA devote as much time and consideration to Mystic as you have to Striker, Warrior, Ranger and other classes.

Everyone worries about this, though they said they are working on every class simultaniously and just releasing the content from time to time, if im not mistaken.

But yes, they should focus on getting it done instead of rushing it to fulfill a deadline. Everyone still brags about " X has not been fixed yet, Class has still the issues its been having for years" and so on. 

What still bugs me is the bug with FPS, that your dmg multiplies on some classes to absurd amounts when you reach 300~600+ FPS and some mechanics dont even work at all if you dont have the game in Fullscreen or enough FPS, like Valk's Echo Walk.

WTF the biggest pile of dog shit changes ...err nerfs i have ever seen some how i am not surprised.....

Removeal of the 2nd lateral jump on silent step WTF
removal of the under 30 shards on crouching wolf for buffs.. WHAT THE ABSOLUTE F

NO PVE BUFFs she is one of the bottom tier grinders in this game and NOTHING LOL

NONE OF THESE CHANGES DO ANYTHING TO ACTUALLY ADRESS THE ISSUES OF MYSTIC BUT HEY WHEN YOU HAVE KNOW NOTHINGS WIN THE ARSHA TOURNEY AND THEY ARE THE VOICE IM NOT SURPRISED..

I AM JUST IN SHOCK AND DISBELIEF THAT THESE CHANGES ARE AS BAD AS THEY ARE.. 

I HAD ZERO FAITH IN YOU GUYS TO BEGIN WITH but you completely blew my expectations away

Relax, she won the pvp tournament so she must be good...

Oh wait, that was warrior, who got one of the better reworks, making him even higher S tier.

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Skill issue by posting a pick of what exactly... just cuz a class can grind desert fogans fast does not mean its a top tier grinder you idiot..

For the gear required to even hit 8-9k trash at orcs you would be clearing 12k+ with the top end classes i know becouse i am there.

what does it matter when they didnt fix the fundimental issues of the class its still trash in large scale like it was trash yesterday in large scale.