Why we can't simple obtain perm "basic" compass (without Lafi compass bonuses) for eg. collecting 20, 30 or 50 Part for Explorer's Compass.

Been suggesting it for ages but people seem to be against this idea and claim that I'm just lazy and shouldn't play the game or something. In reality, temporary compasses don't make sense and permanent don't provide the 4k hour incentive to grind for. There's a million other things i'd rather do with my life and I'm sure that's how everybody but those who already have the compass for feels like. Just give us a perm normal compass please, that's all we want. Make it part of a book chain quest thing or something that isn't RNG reliant where we have to grind a stupid amount of hours for.

I don't agree with getting a permanment basic compass. What's the point of chasing down a treasured item if it's most used feature is easily obtained? Barely anyone would grind for the current treasured compass and that content in the game would be dead. 

However I will agree with you halfway and suggest an increased time on the temporary compass in the game. Once a player put it together they have it for 15 days before it expires. You can buy or grind for the parts inside those 15 days to ensure you have another one ready for another 15 days. If you stacked up on compass parts you will have a compass in a sort of semi permanent fashion.

Basically I think treasured rare items should remain as they are to give those players who want something to strive towards that is challenging and unique. 

Temp = cancer.

Lafi is a treasure because offer more function then normal compass. 

Because Lafi is impregnable, there should be an option to have a basic compass permanently.

No, a compass that would cost the equivalent of an hour of grind is a straight insult to people who spent 500 hours+ getting their compass.

Can always give compass the HP Pot treatment, the part where if you have 1 part you can trade it in for a usable version of the item but much weaker

Maybe 1 or 2 parts for a permanent compass without the tp functionality would be balanced imo

go grind for the compass man its really dope item and u get to grind many hours at the two portal spots in desert which drop tungrads.... AND TONS OF SCROLLSSS/CAPH STONE!! Also a buff is inc there gonna be half agris used each kill

Everything you do in an MMO is temporary. They need to make their game mechanics fun and enticing. Spending 4000 hours to grind for a stupid compass is idiotic. It might appeal to koreans, but I doubt it. Western audience don't want that crap. People who spent 500-4000hrs grinding for it will get over it like everybody gets over their BiS being overshadowed by the new best thing. Life in mmo is always, always temporary and the longevity of a mmo is dependent on its customers. BDO may not live to see another 3 years if they don't improve and it's these suggestions that will bring in more players into the game because they are more interesting than spending a stupid sum of time for such a minor thing.

If you don't like koreans and their games just don't play them.

But if you do, don't come here crying because they're grindy.

BDO is and always has been a niche game, it doesn't need millions of casual fastfood consumers. It's tailored for a specific audience and that's a good thing.

99% of the mmorpg community doesn't like BDO for a lot of reasons. This is the feedback section so we can provide feedback on how to improve this game. There's a very good reason why this game bleeds users more than it gains and why people leave after playing for a short while. BDO has promissing functions but it fails with their delivery. Grindy doesn't mean spend an inhuman amount of time on a almost useless item. People would rather spend their time elsewhere than to do that. This isn't a fun game mechanic for almost everyone but a handful and when I say handful I really mean it.

Why are you so obsessed in defending PA's stance on this? It's just a compass. If I happened to have a compass and they changed it overnight to appeal to the majority of players, I wouldn't mind, I'd welcome it. Why? Because we need more people to play BDO. If you want this game to last for years to come, you will want this game to be broader in appeal. I highly doubt koreans like this either and FYI I never said I dislike Koreans or their games.