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Rework damage engine to be independent of FPS
17. Mrz 2021, 11:59 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Mrz 2021, 11:59 (UTC)
# 1

Yeah.

 

It's just plain stupid that you need high FPS to be able to maximize your damage (certain classes suffer from this more than others, awakening warrior sends his regards). You advertise the game with remastered mode graphics, yet people who want to be competitive are unable to run those graphics since they need 150+ FPS to be competitive. Go look at grinding videos, heck go look at PvP videos. Everyone playing on low/optimized. Great advertising to your game, eh?

 

I don't care if it's difficult. I don't care if it doesn't have a great ROI. I just want your engineers to wrap up their sleeves, grab some elbow grease and start coding. It's not impossible and you know it as well as we do.

 

Just do it.

 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Mrz 2021, 12:26 (UTC)
# 2

There is no "damage engine" just engine itself, and it would take way too much effort to fix it as this is an architectuall deseign issue.

 

If the combat would be server side (how it should be done properly), then we would not have such issues, and cheating would be imposible aswell, but it's unrealistic at this point, to expect them rewrite the whole system, especially since that would require way more know-how than their current system needs.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Mrz 2021, 12:31 (UTC)
# 3
On: Mar 17, 2021, 12:26 (UTC), Written by PlasticDK

There is no "damage engine" just engine itself, and it would take way too much effort to fix it as this is an architectuall deseign issue.

 

If the combat would be server side (how it should be done properly), then we would not have such issues, and cheating would be imposible aswell, but it's unrealistic at this point, to expect them rewrite the whole system, especially since that would require way more know-how than their current system needs.

but it's unrealistic at this point, to expect them rewrite the whole system, especially since that would require way more know-how than their current system needs.

 

While your not wrong it doesnt matter this has been an issue since launch if it means reworking the Engine this still needs to be done regaurdless. This is the biggest issue BDO has and is why PVP is the most fun but flawed thing in the game!

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Mrz 2021, 12:50 (UTC)
# 4
On: Mar 17, 2021, 12:26 (UTC), Written by PlasticDK

There is no "damage engine" just engine itself, and it would take way too much effort to fix it as this is an architectuall deseign issue.

 

If the combat would be server side (how it should be done properly), then we would not have such issues, and cheating would be imposible aswell, but it's unrealistic at this point, to expect them rewrite the whole system, especially since that would require way more know-how than their current system needs.

I just said I don't care how much work it is, didn't I? Can you read?

 

It's not impossible, it's a glaring flaw in the otherwise nice combat system and needs to be fixed. No matter the cost and effort.

 

Period.

 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Mrz 2021, 13:21 (UTC)
# 5

PA tried to fix this issue at one point by locking FPS to 60 for everyone. But they showed they had no idea what they were doing broke half the game than reverted the change. They now refuse to address this issue cause they don't know how, not in the terms of a way but in the terms of they physically don't know how to code a fix without braking the game. Sometimes I'd love to see this game's source code an laugh at how poorly designed it is. Some of the bugs I see in this game make me think this game is held together with gray tape an hope. An part the reason why they don't direct change or added on to old mechanics in this game to make them better and more enjoyable, is because the framework for this game is willing to snape an crumble with even the smallest changes. Seriously just look at Nova in January they completely broke half of the classes skills and made her unplayable for a full week when they changed he summons from 50% crit rate to 50% pve only crit rate, an I recall something similar happening to ranger in December when they made a slight change to one of her skills.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Mrz 2021, 13:22 (UTC)
# 6
On: Mar 17, 2021, 12:50 (UTC), Written by tomgore

I just said I don't care how much work it is, didn't I? Can you read?

 

It's not impossible, it's a glaring flaw in the otherwise nice combat system and needs to be fixed. No matter the cost and effort.

 

Period.

 

Well no one cares about what you, a literal noname, says. It's a profit orianted company. At the end of the day their goal is profit maximalization, hence they only put time into things, that will make enough money relative to the required cost.

This would take enourmus amount of effort, with minimal return rate, hence it's unlikely they ever invest into it.

 

It may hurts you, but that's the raw truth. Realistically the only thing one can expect is a fps lock for the game. That's a lazzy solution, but PA likes lazzy solutions.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Mrz 2021, 13:52 (UTC)
# 7
On: Mar 17, 2021, 13:22 (UTC), Written by PlasticDK

Well no one cares about what you, a literal noname, says. It's a profit orianted company. At the end of the day their goal is profit maximalization, hence they only put time into things, that will make enough money relative to the required cost.

This would take enourmus amount of effort, with minimal return rate, hence it's unlikely they ever invest into it.

 

It may hurts you, but that's the raw truth. Realistically the only thing one can expect is a fps lock for the game. That's a lazzy solution, but PA likes lazzy solutions.

Yeah I know everything about the game at this point is about ROI.

 

It doesn't stop me and others asking PA to fix things that are broken in the game. They're making a ton of money from us at the moment. They can afford it, and they should do it.

 

Frankly I don't know what you get out of making excuses for the devs? You a shareholder or what?

 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Mrz 2021, 15:26 (UTC)
# 8
On: Mar 17, 2021, 13:52 (UTC), Written by tomgore

Yeah I know everything about the game at this point is about ROI.

 

It doesn't stop me and others asking PA to fix things that are broken in the game. They're making a ton of money from us at the moment. They can afford it, and they should do it.

 

Frankly I don't know what you get out of making excuses for the devs? You a shareholder or what?

 

It doesn't but sadly the more we ask for actual game improvements for BDO the more we see how little PA gives shit about improving this game. Been asking for group content that both fun an rewarding for 5 years now they refuse to deliver on it because it will make the grind bareable an discourage players swiping to by pass the grind. Been asking for overhauls on fishing so it fun an profitable to activity do, an buff for trading life skills. But there zero profit for PA to do this so they refuse to improve these systems an leave them as is, which by the total # of zero people doing them we see just how useless these systems are. Been asking for them to remove crystal breaking an XP lose on all WB for 5 years now but because it one of the #1 source of selling ellion's tears, (right next to mob feeding another issue they refuse to address for the same reason) so they never will remove XP an crystal lose on WBs or punish people for mob feeding. We've been asking for balance changes that have been need for 3 years now to occur, but reworking old classes doesn't produce as much money as shiting out new classes.

 

These are all things that should or need to be addressed in this game. But PA refuses to improve these mechanics or address these issues because it either not profitable for them or will discourage players from spending money if they improve them. BDO game design revolves around the cash shop, the cash shop doesn't revolve around the game's design. This just the ugly truth about BDO an why nothing in this game will improve for the better no they will only get worse and worse.

 

P.S PlasticDK not make excuses for the devs he just telling you the same thing I am. Won't lie though the personal attack in the first part of his post is unneeded though. An has resulted in you thinking he disagree with you when they don't.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 18. Mrz 2021, 10:15 (UTC)
# 9

Yeah. It's all about making money. Of course it is. MMO's are huge undertakings and risky ones at that.

 

However, BDO is past the "risky" part. It has established itself in the MMO world and is making a steady profit. They can afford to start addressing issues that do not ring the cash register bell as efficiently as new classes do.

 

We, as their paying customers, should demand they address those issues. It's within our rights, and we should not just accept the state of basing every development decision on ROI.

 

I do feel that they are gradually budging. Just this week we got two very nice - albeit small - QoL issues fixed in the game (BS on horse, mass processing on any qty).

 

We just need to keep making noise about the issues we want fixed. They'll have to listen, or they will eventually lose their loyal customers who pay for their salaries.

 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 18. Mrz 2021, 11:38 (UTC)
# 10
On: Mar 17, 2021, 13:52 (UTC), Written by tomgore

Yeah I know everything about the game at this point is about ROI.

 

It doesn't stop me and others asking PA to fix things that are broken in the game. They're making a ton of money from us at the moment. They can afford it, and they should do it.

 

Frankly I don't know what you get out of making excuses for the devs? You a shareholder or what?

 

You dont need to act like a di*k. You argue with "they are making a ton of money from us" but not everyone agrees with you..

get down from your high horse and talk normal

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