I'll share some ideas I posted on these forums, tell me if some ideas seems interesting to you : 

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=1668&_opinionNo=7821

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=23477&_opinionNo=0

Anyways, thanks for the positive attitude even though we may share different opinions! ;)

Then why does Life Skill exist? Gathering is useless to a PvP game, so does Hunting, Fishing, etc. the same with PvE griding, that's just fat to a PvP game, just get rid of it already!

The thing is, BDO is a Sandbox PvX and by definition that include players that are Only interested in the PvE aspect.

So say it again, people who don't want to PvP shoudn't have to PvP.

In fact there should be Bigger Rewards for people who Only Want to PvP, to the point of making viable for people who enjoy PvP making a "career" (so to speak) of only doing PvP activities.

It's not lack of imagination, it's not seeing the need to reinvent the wheel.

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=1668&_opinionNo=7821

This one is overcomplicating things. Someone said that simple is better. I am currently trying to simpliy my post...

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Forum/ForumTopic/Detail?_topicNo=23477&_opinionNo=0

This one will overload the server? Memories = data store??? More data from millions of players = dead server.... ouch!

I simply wanted to share my own ideas, so that you may find some interesting ones and at least, understand the type of ideas I want to defend.

I may look quite adamant about owpvp, but in these ideas you can see that I don't mind putting more pressure on killers too. Still, fundamentally, I think that BDO should always keep an owpvp base, with this ability to pk, and temporary punishments for pk and deaths. That's my personal baseline ;)

Still, thanks for reading ;)

Everything is ok in a sandbox PvX game. Lifeskills included. PvP included. 

By definition, a sandbox PvX (if we consider BDO as a real sandbox) gives a basis and players do what they want with this basis. It will not imply the fact that players can choose the rules they like, and only these ones.

What you define would precisely be the contrary, a theme park in which eveything is decided, controlled, jauged for a precise experience. 

So I say again, people who don't want to pvp shouldn't have chosen BDO to begin with. Above all if you see BDO as a sandbox PvX, if there's pvp in your pvx, you may be confronted to it. You don't choose the rules you like.

And I don't see BDO as totally sandbox, with seasons, arsha, and many little things.

So if you don't want complicated rules, don't go on a sandbox. Get a nice themepark in which everything is simple and dictated.

Bro, it's not even about the Rules, this is about Player agency, also, why are you so insisting on imposing PvP on Players who have no interest on PvP? Many user seems to be so against the idea of PvP/PvE servers or the Toggle thing I proposed but I don't get why, it's literally the Perfect solution, a Win-Win scenario, Life Skillers get to Life Skill in peace and PvPeers get to share the world with like-minded people and no Karma Penalties, personally I think the Toggle solution is better because that way the Player population gets more evenly distributed.

Anyway, it seems we have to agree to disagree, I just can't agree with your ideas, seem like non-sense to me.

Quote from someone: "to get where you like to go, you will need to PVE before reaching PVP. Without PVE, there will be no PVP."

You are simply wrong and here is why:

First off, alot of Lifeskills are definitely not useless to PvP since they provide a flow of valuable housebuffs and consumables that PvP players use constantly while fighting.

Second i want to point out why you are simply wrong when you claim that it includes players that are ONLY interested in the PvE aspect.

Take a look at a game like Battlefield for example: It is a combined arms game that includes infantry FPS gameplay aswell as ground and air vehicle gameplay. All three of those constantly interact with each other even if some players are ONLY interested in either infantry OR vehicle gameplay because the game was designed that way.

The same is the case for a PvX Sandbox MMORPG, all styles of play are supposed to be intertwined in one way or another, you are not supposed to only interact with one single aspect for 100% of your time playing:

While out of safezones you are at risk of being attacked by other players no matter your activity, PvP interested players NEED to do PvE or Lifeskills in order to progress their combat gear even if they hate it, PvP players have to rely on Lifeskillers to have a constant supply of important consumables and buffs, grindspots have limited amounts of mobs and rotations so that it fuels conflict over grindspot claims.

In a sense you could even consider yourself LUCKY as a lifeskiller because you are not really forced to ever set a foot into PvP gameplay to do your lifeskills, while PvP focused players literally HAVE TO because they cant progress with PvP alone. The only thing is that you are at risk while outside safezones JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE because thats simply the way the game is designed and intended.

The only thing I can see after reading all the posts (including all previous posts), trying to give ideas to save this game from dying and some players telling me that "player killer are using you, for their agenda"... alright. Then here is the thing...

Why can't you guys just remove Life Skillers in general if you don't want life skills to exist? If PA can't solve the PK issue towards Life Skillers then there is no point for Life Skillers to continue existing in this game. The only thing for Life Skillers is:

1.] They can leave the game and move on to something which is better. Please don't say: "just be at lv49. There are already reasons why." "Go to Marni Realms. There are already reasons why.". Also tried: "Apply Debuff to PK for killing Life Skillers. the opposite will say that they will come back even more toxic!"... never in my life seen the community so backward and not moving forward.

2.] Stay in this game and keep getting harassed while Life Skilling as there is nothing to let them have fun or some leverage. If you guys say "just swap server" then it will be the same treatment for them in the upcoming days. More bloodshed while life skilling.

Life Skills is in the middle of PVE and PVP and PVX. They just want to enjoy the game as you guys do. If you Toxic PK can't see that they are life skilling then you guys seriously got a problem. Do you know that Life Skillers can't hurt you? Right? The only thing they do is chop trees, hunt and etc. Yet you angered them to a point where there is a total WAR on this forum. Also, there will be more posts demanding Life Skillers server since there are NO solutions.

Lifeskills exists from day one on BDO. The current settings never prevented from doing lifeskills. Most of the players doing lifeskills accept this risk as it is part of the game, and they do not feel harassed. They know how to avoid these situations, how to stop them when it happens. 

Only a handful of players here are making it look like some bloodthirsty pvpers are trying to make lifeskillers leave but... No. That's not the case. And most players doing lifeskills are in fact PvX players.

Lifeskills totally has its place on BDO, but it is not totally seperated from the rest of the game. I even witnessed several DFGS, "Duel for Garthering Spot", that was funny! XD