BDO - Several years of constant population in steam alone.

I mean, you're telling this on the forums of a game which is precisely proving to you that this kind of owpvp has its audience. So yeah, owpvp is good. BDO proves it. 

I was initially against the Marni realms, yet here they are. I am not going to complain about that and moved on. It wasn't something that would make me quit. But regarding the PvX, I'd go with ideas about multiplayer not single player or playerbase seperation.

Yes. I am definetly against single player ideas and perma PvE servers for whatever reasons. And after doing my own research for a long time on seasons concreted my views. Nothing's changing my mind.

I am currently trying to figure out how we can stop players from dividing further and unite the playerbase. Please continue and try even if it's a grain of salt! I am not giving up and I like to see BDO have a breath of new life and more players!

I am trying to think on my end as well.

It's better to explore on your own. It will take time for sure. There are things that on paper it seem they can work. But in reality?

Thank you! I will keep that in mind...

If you go on that way, there's no mention of PVE either. ^^

An open world MMORPG
where immersive combat and extraordinary adventures unfold.
A true remastered journey awaits you in Black Desert.

Yeah, there's no mention of "forced pvp". There's no mention of the presence of dungeons either, of the type of lifeskills you can do... I mean, at one point it's up to the players to check the details, don't you think? You want a precision about this because it matters a lot to you, but for others it may be secondary... Or maybe they didn't think about it because it seemed obvious to them in a "open world mmorpg"... See what I mean?

Still, the game warns you really quickly about this, if you really didn't spend 5 minutes to check that before you buy the game.

Now, on the first page of BDO NA/EU servers : https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Main/Index

Uncover the Ancients' Truth

An Adventurer who's lost all memories stands at the center of a continent.
Begin your journey to uncover the truth of this world.

Limitless Adventures

Wander the plains on horseback or sail the oceans on a ship.
Explore the wide world and create your own story.

Countless Battles

Fight back the forces that threaten the world or test your might against other Adventurers.
Lead your guild to victory in battle to earn great renown and greater wealth.

Endless Possibilities

Cozy up in your uniquely decorated residence,
sit and listen to insects around a campfire,
embark on a fishing trip with friends, or become a talented alchemist.

Pretty clear that PvP is present, now the exact details have to be verified. But as I said, you could also check many things and their importance varies with the player : dungeons or not, what type of lifeskills, and so on. 

Else you make a general description, or you give every detail. There, they do the first one, but the official Wiki is pretty detailed : 

https://www.naeu.playblackdesert.com/en-US/Wiki

Advanced guide :

◆ If you are tired of hunting monsters, have fun through PvP!

If you understand more about your own character, you will have fun participating in PVP with other adventurers.

You can officially join PvP through Arena, but it is also possible to conduct unilateral attacks on other adventurers.

However, if you do this, you will receive a penalty for the Karma.

Left column : combat -> pvp

You are speaking about Tarkov but did you really play it ? Bot are a part of the game to push the player to make some noise or play safe. They put another game design like people can play SCAV and play with the bot agaisn't player. Tarkov isn't a dead game like CrowFall.

BDO was less toxic when the 1% xp loose when getting killed by a  player in pk was still here (was the real purpose of elion tear btw) because the guy killed loose something and he don't comeback.
Since they remove it we see more and more karma bomb, the dfs system can be useless if the guy don't answer or don't leave if he loose the dfs. Karma need to be rework for being less constraining for the red player since the other player has no side effect to be killed. 

 Sadly the divide will never stop for one reason only. Some people cant accept what BDO is. And I personaly thing that is what prevent BDO bto be the game that should be. What  I mean is that BDO is created to be one world that can you do whatever you want. THing like Arsha, Marni servers, Magnus keeps the game away from polishing. For example lifeskilling - I would love to see it diferent zones, one that is safe and othere with danger. The danger zone will give you more expensive materials but you could be attacked and those materials could be stollen. But you can hire players to protect you for fee. Or guild members for free. That would bring very interesting gameplay, players will socialise more and even think more. Sea content would be realy gread.

 But sadly this will never happen and part of the guild is the players. Those speicial type o fplayers that come to forums and other media and complain because get killed once in 3 months...

 But I will continue to dream, because I believe if comunity find a great soltion that is fun and 99% are happy wit it, devs will make it true.

I'm alright with you ! Is like people who want PVE server like normal server is don't give any sense. If someone don't want to take risk he don't need to be rewarded so if one day PVE server come out they need to at least get less token / less drop that way the income in pve server war lower than normal server this is the best way to make something like this. You take risk you are rewarded, you don't take any risk you are less rewarded than the other is like arsha.

idk man feel like the players aren't divided at all in their decision of not wanting what you want lmao