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Decrease the amount of Nouver's Scales needed for Garmoth heart quest
12. Nov 2022, 17:57 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Nov 2022, 17:57 (UTC)
# 1

I think everyone can agree on that the drop rate for Garmoth's Heart is too low (just look at the 600+ PO in total), and since PA has no plans on changing this, why can't we instead focus on improving the quest that gives you a guaranteed Garmoth's heart?

The main problem with the quest is that you need 400 or something scales from Nouver, which takes months to grind, even with the weekly. It would be better if the required scales could be decreased to somewhere around the 10-25 mark (definitely not more than 40 in my opinion) since it would allow everyone that don't have a heart to get one, and it'd (maybe) supply more into the market if people sell for the tiniest profit.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Nov 2022, 20:09 (UTC)
# 2

How about you don't need anything for Garmy's heart. I mean, it's bad enough that some attend 3 years of Garmy without getting it, right? Might as well everyone else get it in 2 weeks, cus game too hard otherwise.

You get 6 scales in 1 Bloodstorm. But the thing is, ppl don't care. Or don't want to lose crystals. Or whatever. So I dunno... Either you didn't do Nouver as often as you did Garmy, or you just didn't play for long and want everything fast, so you can catch up, win the game and move on to the next.

Either way, I think the pace for getting Garmoth's Heart via the quest is just right. Gives you time to progress the gear at roughly the same pace you progress the quest. After all, you do have a placeholder for Garmy's and it isn't mandatory for you to have a functional build. It's just sheer impatience.


Let the heart stay rare and valuable. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Nov 2022, 21:12 (UTC)
# 3
On: Nov 12, 2022, 17:57 (UTC), Written by Akke

The main problem with the quest is that you need 400 or something scales from Nouver, which takes months to grind, 

Then months to get 50 turos hearts, then you still have to pay 4b for that heart anyway.

So you really think that's the biggest problem?

That's all i got after finishing this quest (+40 on alt char at nouver) :

The real problem is that garmoth heart is unreachable. Garmoth heart and Vell heart should have the same chance as wepon boxes from world bosses. There should also be auras, 100 auras = heart. Why? Because these hearts today are not endgame unique, these are items that every player should have.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Nov 2022, 01:05 (UTC)
# 4
On: Nov 12, 2022, 21:04 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

Then months to get 50 turos hearts, then you still have to pay 4b for that heart anyway.

So you really think that's the biggest problem?

That's all i got after finishing this quest (+40 on alt char at nouver) :

The real problem is that garmoth heart is unreachable. Garmoth heart and Vell heart should have the same chance as wepon boxes from world bosses. There should also be auras, 100 auras = heart. Why? Because these hearts today are not endgame unique, these are items that every player should have.

Months? For turo hearts... Ookay i heard it all considering 3 a hour is average so 17 hours grind ? 

The garmoth hearts are end game... What do you mean :| 

2 crystals unlocked = 14 human damage 

Thats a whole 4 ap brackets for people over 309 ap  or more lmao then you get crit damage on top ... They are designed for end game players hence the price tag of 9B +

Also vells is not BiS splendid an shinning  destruction alchemy stones are. technically vells isnt that good once your able obtain splendid alchemy stone of destruction or higher in the end,  good luck other alchemists ..... I feel the pain to D:

AP after 309 is 3 ap per bracket , 1 ap vs  4 acc and 3% boost on attack speed/ignore resist. Also PA fix pricing when ?

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Nov 2022, 02:22 (UTC)
# 5

You know what is even more bad, poeple like me who work irl at Garmoth & vell spawn time and will cannot attend ever !  so even with one quest i cannot have 2 hearth before probably 2 years with market...that not make the game very engaging for people like me !

What about remove the night offin who absolutly never anybody attend, and put a garmoth :D

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Nov 2022, 07:51 (UTC)
# 6
On: Nov 13, 2022, 00:55 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Months? For turo hearts... Ookay i heard it all considering 3 a hour is average so 17 hours grind ? 

So look at my ratio:

5 hearts per 10 embers, an average of 1 heart every 3 hours. Also Turos it's an unplayable zone.

On: Nov 13, 2022, 00:55 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Also vells is not BiS splendid an shinning  destruction alchemy stones are.

Splendid destruction alchemy stones do not exist so problem is solved. Have you ever tried crafting alchemy stones? Because I did and quickly gave up because in this casino you can only lose. This is no different from trying to get pen accessories.

Also Vell give you basic AP counting to the bracket.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Nov 2022, 08:37 (UTC)
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On: Nov 13, 2022, 07:25 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

So look at my ratio:

5 hearts per 10 embers, an average of 1 heart every 3 hours. Also Turos it's an unplayable zone.

Splendid destruction alchemy stones do not exist so problem is solved. Have you ever tried crafting alchemy stones? Because I did and quickly gave up because in this casino you can only lose. This is no different from trying to get pen accessories.

Also Vell give you basic AP counting to the bracket.

Dam you must be doing really bad at turos. Down bad at turos to it seems. You should get at least 5 embers a hour at minimum . Guess you arent doing main rotation an getting with yls 6.7k trash per hour. Get a shai will help you out on that one unfortunately they will probably carry you.

I enhance them whats your point? They do exist. They are BiS . I also said good luck getting them, the price does not match the actual value of them

"good luck other alchemists"

"PA fix prices when?"

Edit: Also vell gives brackets yes and i did say at 309 ap an higher even with brackets which are around every 7 ap you only get 1 ap more. But you lose out on attack speed , ignore resist and accuracy which accuracy is very important end game especially at the high end spots. Soo vell turns out to be worse.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Nov 2022, 08:34 (UTC)
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On: Nov 13, 2022, 07:25 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

So look at my ratio:

5 hearts per 10 embers, an average of 1 heart every 3 hours. Also Turos it's an unplayable zone.

Splendid destruction alchemy stones do not exist so problem is solved. Have you ever tried crafting alchemy stones? Because I did and quickly gave up because in this casino you can only lose. This is no different from trying to get pen accessories.

Also Vell give you basic AP counting to the bracket.

if splendids dont exist like pen accessories dont exist(according to your logic) im guna have to ask p.a why my characters pen accesorries are there when they shouldnt be and demand a refund. ill go tell everyone who has pen debos and distos that they dont exist so they need to stop using them against me in pvp

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Nov 2022, 08:36 (UTC)
# 9
On: Nov 13, 2022, 08:34 (UTC), Written by BitterBlossoms

if splendids dont exist like pen accessories dont exist(according to your logic) im guna have to ask p.a why my characters pen accesorries are there when they shouldnt be and demand a refund. ill go tell everyone who has pen debos and distos that they dont exist so they need to stop using them against me in pvp

He will probably use that logic outside of town now :o

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 13. Nov 2022, 09:50 (UTC)
# 10
On: Nov 13, 2022, 08:15 (UTC), Written by TitanOfWar

Dam you must be doing really bad at turos. Down bad at turos to it seems. You should get at least 5 embers a hour at minimum .

Because you say that? This is rng.

On: Nov 13, 2022, 08:34 (UTC), Written by BitterBlossoms

if splendids dont exist like pen accessories dont exist(according to your logic) im guna have to ask p.a why my characters pen accesorries are 

1. Pen acc have some value and meaning, alchemy stones do not.

2. No one cares about your pen acc p2w bought a long time ago for pennies.

3. I don't talk to NA players who have been playing since launch. Reason: they can't properly assess the situation, I always talk as if I started playing a month ago, therefore my assessment is correct and credible because it represents the opinions of up to 95% of players.

Toxic players like you are biggest problem in this game.

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