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[CONCEPT] The wardrobe system with renders! - Please implement a wardrobe system!
30. Nov 2022, 23:56 (UTC)
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03. Jan 2023, 23:49 (UTC)
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Updated with the Beauty suggestion. I hope this is what you were thinking :)
I also changed the entire formatting of the OP so it looks cleaner.
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04. Jan 2023, 12:10 (UTC)
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I really hope this makes it ingame. I would kill for different dye setups I can switch between. I like to dye my costumes new all the time, but its annoying to delete my old setting to make new ones
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14. Jan 2023, 02:10 (UTC)
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I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing this sooner...
This is an amazing idea @Tooshaitopost , it would truly be a game changer to Black Desert and something I see welcomed by every single player. I hope they're looking into this and discussing with nothing but positive thoughts. The images you shared for a possible UI are genuinely on-par with MMO development.
Seriously, 10/10 concept. I'm finding you in-game and shooting you over a pet of your choice. Fabulous work!
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14. Jan 2023, 22:01 (UTC)
# 44
On: Nov 30, 2022, 23:56 (UTC), Written by Tooshaitopost
Title: [CONCEPT] The wardrobe system with renders! - Please implement a wardrobe system!
Family Name: Eirianne
Region: North America
The Wardrobe System (With Concept Renders)
Hello everyone! I have made some conceptual renders once again, these sketch conceptual renders are intended as a means to help generate interest for a long-overdue Wardrobe feature. I have included the images and description on how it would work. I have revised and updated these concepts since early December and was last updated on January 3, 2023. The older concepts are kept at the bottom of this post for reference.
SUGGESTION WAS APPROVED FOR REVIEW!
Thank you all for your support! [CM] Cadry mentioned in this thread (Page 3) and pinned it for review and these concepts were shared internally with the Black Desert Studio! I can't wait to see what might come from this! Please take a moment and provide further feedback so that I may make improvements to these concepts.
What is a Wardrobe System?
A wardrobe system is a feature where the player may be allowed to create and organize their valuable pearl costumes and create unique combinations with the ones they have unlocked. It also gives players the ability to see what costume pieces they have not unlocked, the ability to set Combat or Lifeskill effects separately from the costume itself (as long as it has already been unlocked), set idle animation based on what has been unlocked. Let's begin with the illustrations!
→ You can enlarge the images by clicking on it.
The Wardrobe System (Main)
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1 - Wardrobe Groups
In order to manage your wardrobe you will need to have something called a wardrobe group. These groups are created using Patrigio's Wardrobe, which would formally be Patrigio's Apparel Bag. The suggestion would be that we could convert them over into groups. Each group can be named and fully customized. Deleting a group does not delete the pearl items or the expansion group. You can keep adding new groups by purchasing them directly there or from the shop. Or if you like, get lucky with the night vendor or work on that weekly quest.
■ You may choose to name your Wardrobe group for convenience! Right clicking or using the Menu button on a Group will permit you to Delete, Rename and Move the group Up and Down in the list.
■ You can conveniently increase your group limit by clicking on "Get More Slots!"
2 - Main Window
Here you have a preview of your character, the 10 available slots to customize, a button to change the background like in the Beauty Album, select an action pose, zoom / rotation buttons, Hide clothes to reveal underwear (Preview only), and more. Let's go through each feature one-by-one.
2.1 - Dye Set■ The wardrobe function would permit players to Dye each set to their liking. This means that dyes would no longer be bound and require the player to keep changing dye whenever they want to use a different wardrobe combination. 2.2 - Rename■ Each outfit can be given a name and it is possible to rename the outfit. This button allows the player to rename their outfit. 2.3 - Animation■ Another new feature where players may select the animation they desire to fit their given costume. Some costumes have unique animations and poses which are exclusive to be used only with that costume. However, with this feature, any unlocked animation may be applied. 2.4 - Selected Effect■ The expansive nature of the waredrobe feature could permit the player to choose which set effect they wish to use with their selected costume. Now you can wear your Shark costume into battle with the camouflage effect! ■ Set effects would include combat, all lifeskills (cooking, alchemy, etc...), camouflage and so on. ■ The player MUST have the effect already unlocked from at least one of the costumes. 2.5 - Outfit Piece Visibility
■ Each outfit piece may have its visibility toggled with a checkbox. This is convenient when you want the set effect but don't necessarily want to see the outfit piece. 2.6 - Hide Clothes
■ This feature can be toggled ON/OFF in order to view underwear only. This is only for preview and does not get saved. 2.7 - Change Background Weather
■ This feature is already available in the Beauty Album and Pearl Shop. It permits the preview window to reveal the player in different sets of lightings. This does not persist after the window is closed. 2.8 - Character Action
■ Select from a list of actions for the preview character to perform. 2.9 - Zoom and Rotate Buttons
■ These buttons permit the player to finely tune the preview window so that they may see exactly what they want. ■ Alternatively holding control or shift keys with the middle mouse button will have the same effect. 2.10 - Wardrobe Outfit Status Panel
■ This panel displays the status effects of the outfit set as well as any additional features it may have such as a custom animation. 2.11 - Cancel and Save buttons
■ These buttons will close the window while saving or not saving. 2.12 - Wear Set
■ This button allows the player to equip the outfit selected. Alternatively, the outfit slot may be dragged-and-dropped onto a Quick Action container to quickly equip it. |
3 - The Wardrobe System (Equipping)
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4 - Action to Get Here
■ Right clicking on a outfit piece will transition to this screen where the player will be given the ability to change the costume piece based on what they have unlocked.
5 - The Unlockable system
■ Each outfit piece available are displayed on this screen. If it is colored, it is unlocked, if it is grayscaled, it hasn't yet been unlocked (locked).
■ The outfit piece that is currently in use is set to orange and the one currently being considered is highlighted green-blue.
■ The purpose of the collection system is to give the player the knowledge that other outfit pieces exist and give completionists a visual guide towards what many may consider true end game, outfits!
I will now describe each feature:
5.1 - Go Back, Cancel and Confirm Selected■ These buttons will return to the Preview Window by saving or not saving depending on the player's choice. 5.2 - Unlocked Pieces
■ This interface displays the number of pieces for that slot unlocked out of the total amount available.
5.3 - Sorting Dropdown List
■ The sorting dropdown list permits the player to organize the pieces by various means. ● 5.3.1 - View All which displays all of the outfit pieces ● 5.3.2 - View Owned which displays only the owned outfit pieces ● 5.3.3 - View Not Owned which displays all of the outfit pieces the player does not yet own 5.4 - Outfit Piece Preview List
■ This scrollable container allows the player to preview ans select the outfit piece that they desire. When an outfit piece is seleted, the box changes colors and it displays the name of the outfit piece at the bottom of the window. 5.5 - Completion Panel
■ This panel displays information for the player to better understand how they are doing with their outfit collection. This is not specific to the ouftit slot but shows in general the stats of the character. I have grayed out the Karlstein outfit "not available for this class" in order to prevent confusion for players who may not know this fact about Shai. |
6 - How it could interface with the Pearl Inventory System
■ There may be some questions about how this would affect the player's ability to manage their pearl items and whether or not they may eventually choose to melt their outfits. Rest assured I have answers!
6.1 - Pearl Items are Still Pearl Items
■ When you purchase pearl items they would still appear as pearl items until you right click on it to consume the outfit or costume piece to be bound to your character. At this point, the items would then disappear from the pearl inventory and appear in the Wardobe system. 6.2 - Melting the Outfit Piece
■ Now that the item is inside the wardrobe what do you do if you want to melt it? It's simple. Select a outfit slot and browse for the outfit piece you wish to melt. Right click or press the Menu Button and a new menu will appear. Select "Return to Pearl". This will remove the outfit item from your wardrobe and will be placed in your pearl items tab. You can use the existing system to melt the piece. If you change your mind you can add it again to your wardobe. ■ Please keep in mind that if you do this you would lose any set effect and be unable to use any outfit animation if it has any. ■ You will also be unable to equip that item piece until it is restored to your wardobe.
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7 - Beauty Preset Selection
■ A wonderful suggestion made by Bubblepuff which could be used to Tag beauty sets with the outfit selected. This means that players could select which beauty preset to use with a given outfit. For instance, if you wish to have Brown hair and a ponytail with a dress, you could save it to that wardrobe preset.
■ I have prepared a button which could illustrate this idea.
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If you like this idea...
Please be sure to upvote this, reply, share it with your guild etc etc... The more people get hyped about the idea of a wardrobe, the more likely they will implement it. I know they talked about wanting to do it before but it's been a very long time. I don't have any Reddit or social network account so feel free to share this idea however you like!
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Other Ideas in the works:
■ If you want to see my other thread about "Redesigning the Pet System" Click Here! I'd love to get your support!
■ I'm also working on "Workers 2.0" This thread is not yet ready to be published.
Such a well constructed thread, great idea, I do not see this being implemented, PA needs to hire you truly +1000 if i could!
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19. Jan 2023, 00:41 (UTC)
# 45
On: Jan 14, 2023, 02:10 (UTC), Written by Thyrnan
I'm disappointed in myself for not seeing this sooner...
This is an amazing idea @Tooshaitopost , it would truly be a game changer to Black Desert and something I see welcomed by every single player. I hope they're looking into this and discussing with nothing but positive thoughts. The images you shared for a possible UI are genuinely on-par with MMO development.
Seriously, 10/10 concept. I'm finding you in-game and shooting you over a pet of your choice. Fabulous work!
Thank you for your kind words! After reading that, I just checked to see if there was a friend request and sure enough. (They don't make it obvious that you have requests do they?) But don't worry about sending me pet, I do it because I enjoy supporting the game I love to play and if they get inspired by these concepts then we can all benefit from it!
On: Jan 14, 2023, 22:01 (UTC), Written by Supra1997
Such a well constructed thread, great idea, I do not see this being implemented, PA needs to hire you truly +1000 if i could!
I appreciate the feedback and support! Words like that only motivate me to pitch my next set of concepts!
As for everyone else, thanks again! I'll be working on the worker 2.0 concepts next since i'm pretty much done with pets 2.0. :)
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03. Feb 2023, 06:52 (UTC)
# 46
I wanna see this implemented!!!! :D
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08. Feb 2023, 14:07 (UTC)
# 47
I really hope they implement this!!!
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17. Feb 2023, 22:40 (UTC)
# 48
I'm not sure I follow the OP's extensive suggestion. We can already mix and match pearl outfit items. I've been doing it ever since they added costumes to the Pearl Store. You still gain the outfit effect of the costume as long as the inter-mixed costume items share the same effect, which they almost all do.As fordying the same outfit different colors and adding it to a costume group, I've just purchased a second pair of shoes or gloves or whatever. You don't have to purchase the entire outfit from the pearl store. What am I missing with this post?
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18. Feb 2023, 02:17 (UTC)
# 49
On: Feb 17, 2023, 22:40 (UTC), Written by Shauri026
I'm not sure I follow the OP's extensive suggestion. We can already mix and match pearl outfit items. I've been doing it ever since they added costumes to the Pearl Store. You still gain the outfit effect of the costume as long as the inter-mixed costume items share the same effect, which they almost all do.As fordying the same outfit different colors and adding it to a costume group, I've just purchased a second pair of shoes or gloves or whatever. You don't have to purchase the entire outfit from the pearl store. What am I missing with this post?
Yes, you can mix and match pearl outfits but you can't pick what bonus stats you want with what. You can't say use the curious gatherer outfit and use the shark costume buffs. This is the mix and match part that you may have misunderstood. Mixing one piece or another isn't adequate, my suggestion allows you for full, extenesive customization on how you want to play and how you want to dress.
Your second part requires people to re-purchase expensive outfits for the sake of changing colors. This is not a valid solution. My suggestion permits people to create sets specific with dyes. If you want to save your costume in 3 different colors, you could do this without spending extra money. This is a win for everyone especially PA due to people more likely to invest in outfits / costumes for end-game collections. As you can see, there is even the ability to see what you don't currently own which is perfect for the completionist (and yes it is toggle-able).
Everything about the current system is very difficult to deal with, my suggestions resolves the complexities and simplifies them and also grants many new great features. It's very difficult to swap outfits right now and mixing and matching with the same gear through different outfits is not possible. With the wardrobe system you can create different outfits using the same shoes or hat or whatever it is without having to constantly taking it off manually and spending a lot of time looking through each patrigio's apparel bag to find the one where it contains what you want.
This is an overhaul concept to a system that desperately needed improvements. Thankfully the BDO Studio praised the idea and we may be fortunate enough to see it or something like it in the future. :D
I think there was a misunderstanding but don't worry though, if you still don't get it and they greenlight this for sure, you'll understand when it is released. It'll be glorious and you'll wonder how you even dealt with outfits before it :)
PS. When I say "my suggestions" I meant that in the scope of "OP" not as in everything was my idea. There were a few people contributing some improvements which were credited in the OP.
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04. Mrz 2023, 08:01 (UTC)
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I left BDO about six months after launch and went to Guild Wars 2 (aka Fashion Wars 2), which has (had?) a great wardrobe system. Once I came back to BDO in 2019, I was bummed that it hadn't upped its dye/wardrobe game. A lot of people may not find the suggestion necessary but as someone who loves appearance customization, I think this is a fantastic idea and really hope it's given long and contemplative consideration.
*EDIT* Forgot to make the argument that BDO is a very diverse game, with a lot of players that play the game in different ways- PvE/PvP/Lifeskillers/Ship Captains/etc. and with all the positive improvements the QoL updates have made to our overall immersion, allowing more unfettered control over how our characters look seems one of the obvious next steps toward maintaining and growing that diversity of playerbase. In other words- everyone wants to look cool (our own idea of cool, at least ^_^), even if we're just gathering herbs.
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