Title: Addressing Shai advantage in AOS
Family Name: Snoods

Region (NA/EU): EU

Suggestion/Comments: -

Shai are going to win AOS because they offer a huge advantage to the team in that bracket of gear. So they will be in more winning matches thanks to that

SO…

PA will jump at the chance to neft , gonna happen.. To stop all the Fights before hand with PA, I will tell you how to address it (even though we are only looking at AOS, we have seen PA blanket nerf shai for isolated parts for the game, and then I had to spent 2 months learning 4 classes and upload 20+ video of tests to prove it was unfair in its current state.. let’s not go through that again yeah?)

Solution;

Add Mana(MP) requirement to first cast of skills like “forest’s echo” (Bongos)

like you do for buffs / debuffs. This mean you open up a counter build through MP drain (then its upto othere players if they wanna build that, i do it for VS. corssairs in RBF, sorcs too :P)

Only things you gotta do now PA? Get the MP cast amount correct and fair. Not so much that it silly, not so much that the shai can’t be forced to fail a cast (take into account pot timers and sizes).

And once you have addressed this issue, you have put an extra cost on shai that you will rebalance somewhere else. More evasion on skills or something (few percent).

Thanks in advance, I’m sure you will take it onboard

UPDATE (based on somthing i found out);

OGM.. dents.. now this is why you should talk and not just assume.

MP cost on First cast, a One of cast... not constant MP usesage to keep playing the bongos, not a constant stam and MP cost.

Ha-ha that why some of you got upset? Why didnt you say instead of this?

Oh well Feedback scuffed anyways. partly my fault cus i assume you knew what 'requirement to first cast' meant, i asummed PvP players. My bad. and good it happend cus the CM may be in the same boat.

Forum aint the place for Dis :( Ignore it, going direct this time 

shai is as good as the team, a good shai will not carry two imbecils.

and since you cant group queue i dont see it as a problem.

Like everything, its just rng.

I don't know if a MP cost would solve the problem honestly, the skill already has a stamina cost overtime.
That said, Shai on AOS is rng, ur dependant on your teammates.

Sad it got so many downvotes (if your a shai and saw 'nerf' and went 'no, dat bad' then you missed the point of this post), but maybe there is AOS anger, maybe people dont understand?

Chances are PA will make changes cus of load voices, i wanted to make them less impactful on the class. Pft, well, they best not complain if there is a neaf and it 10 time worse that what i put forward.

... silly rabbits (make no diff to me)

hmm, not saying counter, i dont understnd your point here. can you explain how it relates?

im on about a counter beeing added, not a huge one. not game changing. Apart from you saying somthing correct but unrealted, i can't figure out how to respond.

Look forward to you explaining it to me.... not what you said cus i get that, i agree, but how it relates, so i can understand your point.

For each class teammates matter, but this is about one class and feed back on that class in AOS, not AOS and teammates.

The idea of MP as well is similar to how i stop sorcs casting crows. Drain the mp and it can’t be case till they pot or back off. It’s not a huge change, it would be balancing that may take the edge off in some matches... I offered this up so PA have a suggestion rather than something much harsher… I hope people get that now? Maybe clean up the vote, ha-ha, nah, they never come back to read up... votes are a hate system :P (videos soon? Still waiting CM)

when people say shai is op in AOS (cus that the narrative on streams, and i know some in here are to cool to watch streamers, but streamer voices do have impact, like it or not)

This small impact means there is a counter argument that other classes can build MP drain to stifle the shai bongos. they wont build a counter cus they want cc and dmage, but now the option is there and shai is safer from nerfs (so if you a shai fan and down voted, Oof...not the smartes move you ever made)

E.g., there is now a counter build and PA can use that, rather than any blanks nerf they may have in their head

sadly i don’t think most have understood my suggestion and recommendation and only a few took the time to post their thinking (appreciated, lets me see that you didn’t get my point, be it my fault or your… The other votes, we don’t know why they are… miss understanding? Shai hate? Snoods hate (NA visit and RBF owning?) Disagreement? Derangement? (i do get people upset in game, im that good!) Well if they don’t chime in how can we talk? I will try to be nice)

….But I guess they are the experts: P Maybe the feedback forum not the place for this sort of feedback? Anything a little bit involved and people can’t seem to grasp it, back to doing it the old way and not involving you peeps? (cus you dont wann be involed, should be 5 comments here!!! only have 2 and they bothe missed the point)

hmph... some days i don’t know why i bother. hopefully a pvp orientated CM will see and understand this?

The down votes are a badge of honor.  Think about it this way.  If the toxic community was supporting everything you say, you are probably not saying the right things.  You should be honored to be one of the more reasonable people outside that box.

Pity though, its why so many steer clear of the forums, a lot of creators, 99% of my subs don’t used it, due TO this trash, and PA think there is some sort of really reflectionof the community here. Nah

Part of the forum doesn’t work but staff is happy it looks like it does something. Ah well, along with 6+ months of staff tickets from last year and what they said and promised/ and what we see again, I have some good content for J :)

Think I will call the forums a day for now and go back to going around the forums and using my other methods. Have got 80% of things I have requested in place (recorded and proven) without the forums, that’s shocking to me. Failing off staff (they know what I mean, check up on your tickets staff. broke your end of the deal) Feedback section even with its additions. Still not good

8 months total PA forums staff... came back to the forum feeback section and tested the new formats, and nothing has improved. Oof. recored and ready for content :P

I know your intention. 
But well, this reflects the players fear on nerfs. Can only thank on PA because they have proven enough times that they don't know how to nerf, to the point players of any class fear any sign of nerf because its always either a overnerf, or a slap in the wrist. There is no middle ground.