If a blind man opens his eyes, he still won't see anything. 

Despite 7 years, PA still does not understand that they are making a game for players, not for themselves, and that it is casuals that drive the gaming market, not a handful of pvp players. For this handful, the Arsha channel and the multitude of pvp modes available in BDO will be enough.

make marni zone 2-3 hours per day without it being staggered to 1 hour at a time with pauses and most pve casuals will be more than happy with it.

The only one who still cant open the eyes is you. The game is made for PvPvE players. Not for PvP haters. Yes they made some changes and the last one make  players leave. Devs understand what mistake they did. Lets see the future.

To be honest with the dammage they did I dont see a reason marni to be non stop. For all is clear that PVE server will be griefing shitshow, so marni is the best solution. All they have to do now is flag system and better rules for GvG.

Marni and 5m server swaps is enough.  The Dec changes never should have happened.  1 Sided decs need to come back and the time from decs being issued to the time they go in needs to be lowered to 5 minutes.  The receiving guild just needs to be notified.  Heck if you receive a Dec, they could make it so that your Server Swap CDs are set to 15 seconds for the next 10 miniutes to allow you to find a server that is away from the guild that deced you.  

Then add a way to swap servers while dead, when you get to the new server you are still dead and can pearl rez or swap again.  

The biggest probem with BDO's OW PvP is that the minority of players that hate PvP are also the ones the loudest and engage in chat PvP only.

There already is almost zero penalty for OW PvP deaths as is if you are not red.

The problem is that the system does not protect players who are AFK from PvP.  IMO once an AFK activity is set you should be able to log your fisher/wagon trainer/dummy trainer and so on out.  The mandatory logged in to do afk activities is a huge problem.  The ability for someone to grab walk a player from where they went AFK at to a hostile area is a problem that no Karma changes will fix.  I can and have grab walked a fisher in Kamasylvia and brought them to world bosses.  I have brought fishers to deadly areas all over, yes it's toxic, I thought it was funny at the time, now I think it is a cringe move.  

They need to add a system that protects the AFK players while also allowing players to do something when another player comes up and attacks them on a grind spot, or starts grinding over top of them.  If someone is flagged and you hit them you shouldn't lose Karma, also flags shouldn't be able to be turned off at a moment's notice.  Once it's on it should only be able to be turned off in town.  

While i'm 100% to give players freedom and think that forcing PVP on everyone is extremely bad choice, and this is bad for any single Online game, not just BDO i competely disagree on the Casual part.

Every single Online game need both type of players, Hardcore ones and the Casuals. Also there is tons of players that are playing few hours per day, but don't fit the Casual category, neither the die-hard Hardcore category as well.

As far as the BDO Devs goes on i think it's way more complex then you and me think. They actually want to change for quite some time, but they don't want to piss the vets players. But the reality is it's mostly the griefers that are crying louder and trying to revert to heavy forced PVP.

At the end of the day i don't see the problem, when they have Arsha, where you can OWPVP freely, and you have tons of PVP modes. 
Also they are just crying, but they can't do a ****. What will do they do ? Would they quit ? And where they will go ? 

There is no MMO that even come close to offer even a 1/10 of what BDO has to offer in terms of PVP content.

I don't know a MMO that forced PVP, and even such that had a dedicated PVP server for it, where it's not totally emtpy. Given that other games have dedicated PVP, but they are beyond empty.

But here is the problem for the BDO Devs and the thing they don't get. The PVE commuinity can actually replace BDO easily, cause there is tons of good Single-player ARPG games that offer skill-based combat, with great PVE world and content. But there is not such PVP game out there, right !

PVE Server with instances area, aka full Marni(not 10x10meters area) is absolutely needed for the game.

This can also do the trick, but they need Marni to be the Monster Zone, aka just an Instance, and you are alone in the whole Monster Zone.

I hate doing Marni, cause it's literally 10x10, and this is just not fun.

And how is he or me a PVP haters ? Did anyone on here says remove PVP completely from the game? As this would be a PVP hate.

Also what players leave, as the numbers don't suggest a single thing. It's quite the opposite. Since they start focusing on the PVE part, and ease of things, there was huge rushdown of players.

Stop with the nonsenses and lies that even you don't believe.

Most people don't want to deal with PVP, and it's because of them being forced to participate in one.

While i hate dealing with words like majority and minority, trying to claim the majority is PVP or PVPVE players is a complete lie.

BDO OWPVP is beyond garbage, as it's one shot fest, and it's worst when you put class imbalance and gear score difference.

It's prolly one of the main reason(as well as Crystal destruction) as so many people leave the game.

Servers are very telling. If PVP and PVPVE was so wanted, Arsha would have been full, and i never for once in my life have seen Arsha server crowded.

You can try to spin it as much as you can, majority will wanna do PVE and PVE only. 

Not anyone have whole day in front of the PC. The 2-3 hours i had i want to spend my time in the activity i want. If i want to PVP i go for AOS if i wanna do PVE i wanna do it freely.

Is that why Arsha is emtpy? Muhahahahhah the majority of the people are actually life-skillers and PVE players.You have to be beyond delusional to claim anything else.The Dec changes were great and because of griefers and players like you, i'm 100% certain they will either remove completely the Open World PVP, will left it only in Arsha Server, or they will introduce full PVE servers with instances.