Black Desert beginnt in Kürze.

Das Spiel wird gestartet, wenn Ihr den Launcher installiert habt.

Installiert den Launcher, um das Spiel zu starten.

Sollte der Launcher bereits installiert worden sein, wird das Spiel gestartet.
Startet den Launcher manuell, wenn er sich nicht automatisch öffnet.

Installation-Guide

1 Ladet die Datei BlackDesert_Installer_NAEU.exe herunter und installiert den „Black Desert“-Launcher.

2 Bitte startet das Spiel, sobald die Installation beendet ist.

Forum

UTC 18 : 34 12. Mai 2024
CEST 20 : 34 12. Mai 2024
PDT 11 : 34 12. Mai 2024
EDT 14 : 34 12. Mai 2024
#Meinung #Darstellungselemente
Rewards for self-made gear.
09. Okt 2023, 13:54 (UTC)
794 20
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Okt 2023, 07:19 (UTC)
# 11
On: Oct 9, 2023, 23:13 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

"not healthy for the game"?

this change would be the most healthy thing you can do to this game right now.

Anyone who is determined to make their own entire gear set is already super far behind anyone who just buys. 

I have mostly selfmade gear and I have better gear than what 99.99% of the playerbase even can dream ever reaching what are you even talking about?
In the first place some of the endgame gear can only be self enchanted even currently.

244 4634
Lv 63
Hnnie
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Okt 2023, 09:14 (UTC)
# 12
On: Oct 9, 2023, 23:13 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

"not healthy for the game"?

this change would be the most healthy thing you can do to this game right now.

Anyone who is determined to make their own entire gear set is already super far behind anyone who just buys. 

The numbers are something like this: "just buy" players get their gear 10 times faster than "I'll enhance my own" players. This means that "I'll enhance my own" players are 10 times weaker. 

The "im just gunna buy" mentality is usually someone who quits the moment they get bodied by a zerker the first time. 

People who come from a MMO background and try BDO for the first time are usually unhappy with the meta being "just buy".

I have heard this over a dozen times in the past few months alone. 

Actively linking the acquisition of additional stats to a succession of RNG based enhancements is not healthy, precisely. 

I'd totally agree with your suggestion if BDO had a guaranteed way to make equipment, but that's not the case.

Moreover, you have a really worrying way to value RNG in your gaming. Oo 

A player ready to grind the money all of his gear is necessarily weaker than a guy trying to enhance by himself? Is believing in luck the proof of a higher dedication to the game?

And no, players are not unhappy because they can "just buy" their equipment. They realize the amount of grind it still means.

... Seriously, these times, there's really something wrong with the perceived value of RNG. Oo

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Okt 2023, 12:48 (UTC)
# 13
On: Oct 10, 2023, 07:19 (UTC), Written by CatDK

I have mostly selfmade gear and I have better gear than what 99.99% of the playerbase even can dream ever reaching what are you even talking about?
In the first place some of the endgame gear can only be self enchanted even currently.

How does stating that you are in the top 0.01% of players help our discussion here?

MMO players can usually be divided into two groups. Those that make their own gear, and those that dont. 

I personally know 6 people who don't want to play BDO because there is no benefit to self-making your gear. 

Any way you slice it, this kind of addition to the game is a long term reward. MMO enjoyers love long term goals, and feeling like the gains they make actually matter. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Okt 2023, 13:40 (UTC)
# 14
On: Oct 10, 2023, 12:48 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

How does stating that you are in the top 0.01% of players help our discussion here?

MMO players can usually be divided into two groups. Those that make their own gear, and those that dont. 

I personally know 6 people who don't want to play BDO because there is no benefit to self-making your gear. 

Any way you slice it, this kind of addition to the game is a long term reward. MMO enjoyers love long term goals, and feeling like the gains they make actually matter. 

Getting the money to buy it is the same exact long term goal a player can have. 

No offense, but your division between players making their gear by themselves and players buying it is a totally personal point of view. There's no demerit in buying your gear, above all in BDO where it still implies a long process of getting the money, without possible lucky shortcut like when you enhance by yourself.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Okt 2023, 16:59 (UTC)
# 15
On: Oct 10, 2023, 13:40 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

Getting the money to buy it is the same exact long term goal a player can have. 

No offense, but your division between players making their gear by themselves and players buying it is a totally personal point of view. There's no demerit in buying your gear, above all in BDO where it still implies a long process of getting the money, without possible lucky shortcut like when you enhance by yourself.

They are not the same. If you want proof you can ask any player why he/she does not personally enhance. They will tell you its easier to just purchase all they need. 

Incorrect. This is a matter of fact.

█ There is demerit. It's called taking the easy option. Because its universally understood that in BDO, its easier to buy all your gear. 

█  "lucky" in BDO is enhancing something for less than it would cost to buy it. This number is usually represented in the %-chance to succeed. If an enhancment has 10% chance to succeed, then less than 10% of the players who attempt this enhancement will succeed before hitting the market value of the item. Worst is, when this item is misrepresented in value vs the cost to enhance. EG PEN manos is a great example. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 10. Okt 2023, 20:14 (UTC)
# 16
On: Oct 10, 2023, 16:59 (UTC), Written by ArchaicTriad

They are not the same. If you want proof you can ask any player why he/she does not personally enhance. They will tell you its easier to just purchase all they need. 

Incorrect. This is a matter of fact.

█ There is demerit. It's called taking the easy option. Because its universally understood that in BDO, its easier to buy all your gear. 

█  "lucky" in BDO is enhancing something for less than it would cost to buy it. This number is usually represented in the %-chance to succeed. If an enhancment has 10% chance to succeed, then less than 10% of the players who attempt this enhancement will succeed before hitting the market value of the item. Worst is, when this item is misrepresented in value vs the cost to enhance. EG PEN manos is a great example. 

OoooooK.... Gambling-based ego all along... 

1) because they don't believe in their luck and prefer to take the time to gather the money. In their opinion, THEY'RE the ones working for their gear. 

2) Denied. Pure opinion from you. Nothing to back it up. 

3) above all, RNG is badly perceived. This is the real reason to buy. They still have to grind the money, and this is one of the real undeniable dedication to the game. Unlike RNG which can bless you from time to time. 

4) No matter how you elaborate it, this is only RNG, not everyone is willing to bet their progression on a random result only. An item may have 10% chance of success, an individual can still be far under these 10% if RNG decides it. Improbable, not impossible. For these players, it's not easier to grind, it's simply less expensive. And at least, they do not feel like they're losing their gaming time for no result. 

Maybe you get your adrenaline shot, you feel in control, but others will simply feel relief even when an enhancement succeeds, not satisfaction. For them, clicking on the purchase button will feel like the real deserved reward because putting their progression in the hands of RNG is not worth it. 

It's up to you to choose the enhancement way. It's another thing to glorify RNG over regular grind. Lastly, you should stop spitting on players grinding for their gear. Because, even by choosing the enhancement way, you do nothing better than grinders. You simply do it your way. 

Long story short : you should not try to dictate what is easy or hard, nor to define the value of luck. Players grinding for their gear deserves it, show some respect and don't feel superior because you rely on luck. There's absolutely nothing HARDER in clicking some enhancements.

(now I'm waiting for the incoming tantrum, but your mindset is seriously worrying, take care of you, OK? ) 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 11. Okt 2023, 01:34 (UTC)
# 17

I'm currently at 711gs, so far all of my gear is self-tapped and while it would be faster if I bought most of my stuff from the market, the satisfaction of seeing my own name on the gear I've enhanced is good enough as a reward. In my opinion, whatever path you take on upgrading your gear shouldn't be something that needs to be rewarded. Both buying and tapping have their nuances, and players can have trouble in both instances, so if anything, they might as well add stats for people who bought their gear. 

Other than that, you also need to take into consideration the pen tuvala timmy who somehow has 2x pen blackstars that they yolo-tapped on a free 160fs and a j-hammer. What about players like those? Are they gonna be rewarded for being carried? There are players out there who haven't struggled at all with their gear enhancements, so not only were they lucky, but they'll also get some extra stat boosts on top of it as well.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 11. Okt 2023, 16:51 (UTC)
# 18
On: Oct 10, 2023, 20:14 (UTC), Written by Sadalsuud

OoooooK.... Gambling-based ego all along... 

1) because they don't believe in their luck and prefer to take the time to gather the money. In their opinion, THEY'RE the ones working for their gear. 

2) Denied. Pure opinion from you. Nothing to back it up. 

3) above all, RNG is badly perceived. This is the real reason to buy. They still have to grind the money, and this is one of the real undeniable dedication to the game. Unlike RNG which can bless you from time to time. 

4) No matter how you elaborate it, this is only RNG, not everyone is willing to bet their progression on a random result only. An item may have 10% chance of success, an individual can still be far under these 10% if RNG decides it. Improbable, not impossible. For these players, it's not easier to grind, it's simply less expensive. And at least, they do not feel like they're losing their gaming time for no result. 

Maybe you get your adrenaline shot, you feel in control, but others will simply feel relief even when an enhancement succeeds, not satisfaction. For them, clicking on the purchase button will feel like the real deserved reward because putting their progression in the hands of RNG is not worth it. 

It's up to you to choose the enhancement way. It's another thing to glorify RNG over regular grind. Lastly, you should stop spitting on players grinding for their gear. Because, even by choosing the enhancement way, you do nothing better than grinders. You simply do it your way. 

Long story short : you should not try to dictate what is easy or hard, nor to define the value of luck. Players grinding for their gear deserves it, show some respect and don't feel superior because you rely on luck. There's absolutely nothing HARDER in clicking some enhancements.

(now I'm waiting for the incoming tantrum, but your mindset is seriously worrying, take care of you, OK? ) 

Nice personal attack #1

Fantasy. 

Once again, if you read any posts on these forums (even the one that came before this) you will find that the overwhelming majority of players feel like buying your gear is  easier than enhancing your own. 

RNG being badly perceived? Not at all. If you see that an enhancement is 10% seccess rate; you know its going to take an average of 10 attempts to win. Despite the logical statistic and mathmatical findings of this, the result is not guaranteed. BUYING from the CM removes this chance of failure and does guarantee the victory. 

Spitting on people? I did not cast any dispersions against anyone. You feel personally attacked by this post because you probably just purchased all of you gear from the CM. And I'm only speculating here but... you probably fear this idea. 

What is hard and what is easy is a matter of fact, not my opinion (I've asked hundreds of players). Also, I said NOTHING about my own situation in BDO. I do not "rely on luck". You know NOTHING about what I do in this game and it has zero bearing on this topic. 

Nice personal attack #2. You are clearly an emotional person who hates having decent discussion on the internet. Check your personal issues at the door, or just close your account.

Dieser Inhalt wurde von dem Administrator oder aufgrund mehrerer Meldungen ausgeblendet.
Dieser Inhalt wurde von dem Administrator oder aufgrund mehrerer Meldungen ausgeblendet.
Antworten

Feedback

Share your feedback and suggestions to help us develop Black Desert.

last
Es werden bis zu 10.000 Ergebnisse angezeigt.

Mit Eurem Einverständnis, nutzen wir Cookies um personalisierteren Inhalt und Werbung zu schalten.
Weitere Informationen