Awekaning mystic pvp and Succ mystic pve have been one of the most outdated specs in the game for a long time now..pa never even aknowledges the issue let alone fix them..there is no hope for this class its sad i am in the verge of quiting the game after staying with mystic for so long 🥲

hop onto some classes and try encountering mystics. ull see whats what.

My Original Main was mystic for over 3 years until I moved to succ Valk With Succ Mystic Tagged. Meagu came out and i RR to meagu but I still have my Succ Mystic Tagged.

I love my Succ Mystic AND Succ Valk but got into a pretty heated discussion with the Mystic Community when the Reboot happened that left me removing myself from Mystic Discord . Again i hold no super grudges against the Mystic Community but almost 2 years after the Reboot Everything i had stated about the class that needed to be fixed was 100% correct. To this day she is still in a very bad spot overall as it compares to other classes.

But Taking Mystic dashes off Shard use and put it on Stam use.. leaving shards for damage not movement would be on step in the right direction.

Before anyone gets all upset and starts down voting you will really understand my perspective.

Mystic is a 1V1 Dualist be it in BA or in Open world if you Get grabbed by a Succ Mystic or make a mistake around one your going to be Downsmashed to death and wrecked no if ands or buts.

This is her biggest strength to Combo but outside of 1V1 if you don't outgear your opponents in a 1VX by 60+ GS your a speed bump due to her Main Requirement to do Combos to build Shards to deal big damage, Majority of her Combo skills are unprotected and end up leading to being a door mat. so without Combo's the mystic is a Awakened Meagu with a grab completely worthless in everything.

GvG,NW and Siege playing a Mystic Succ or Awakened Spec you are a Waste of space and a detriment to your team Currently both Specs are D Tier in NW or anything outside of small scale skirmishes (were you outgear everyone or a DP meme) and 1v1.

This is were i can say that the above comment

This completely depends on region as well KR and SEA have a Mystic Fetish she is actually part of Meta over there do to the way other Regions utilize Meta and you can also see why some classes get continually buff in KR were other classes look like they are tossed away what the metrics show in KR is that Mystic is popular and a Pain to everyone unlike here in NA were Meta is Sage, Ranger/Archer , Zerker, Awakened Valk, Witch/Wiz. A Striker is prefered over mystic... the above classes completely Nullify Mystic in NW and Siege.

Were in Sea or KR top of the list is Succ/awakened Sorc followed by Warrior, succ Nova, Tamer, Awakened Wiz, Awakened Striker were over there they concider Succ Wiz Top Trash in NW/Siege and concider Mystic in the A+ catagory.

The Meta Between NA and EU is Different as well But KR and NA are literally are almost polar opposites i mean here in NA a Succ Lahn is friggin evil in large scale in KR it is D+ Tier.

So Again due to this issue it seems like Mystic never gets what she needs and why there is such a big issue were above say "Wait till you encounter one" But those that play mystic completely understand just how bad she is in NA meta outiside of 1v1.

For all you clowns down voting cuz I call Succ Mystic a hot mess and garbage outside of 1V1 this includes PVE..

Look at G'LAB for your super timid PVE buff nothing tells you more than they think your fine with a mild 10% buff on non used skills then beefing shard use skills by 30% but do nothing with your ability to move between packs with the very thing they try to fix LMFAO what a joke.

It is not just PA. It is also a lot of the playerbase that remembers how oppressive it was 6 or 7 years ago, as well as the existing ones that are gimped by their class-to-class damage mods. They do not care about the bugs it has or nonsensical skill design because they have their own grievances they want addressed first, and they want Mystic to stay down. PA does not want to deal with the backlash and complaints they got years ago if i had to guess, even at the expense of people that main Mystic.

Really????? 6 years later

Another claim of fictitious Backlash really, i am getting a bit tired seeing comments like these about crybabies talking about backlash that never happened.

What class is not oppressive??? Let me guess someone was grinding Desert Fogans and they got ganked by a Mystic 6 years ago and lost a crystal it was sooo terrible..

I have stories the other way around about how 6 years ago was in reality,  there was ONLY ONE WAY TO GRIND back then to fight against the Siege players killing Gate Keepers and trolling low end grind spots was to be a DP meme.. my Mystic back then was legend to a lot of players i ran a full dp meme set up and to Red players and clowns i was almost unkillable back then and could just about kill everything with 150ap..

My memories of that Era were Witches/Wizards (were wiz could hot bar teleports and use off cooldown it was a bug that was there for almost a year).

Sorcs were pretty much unstoppable, not to mention Maehwa players that ran around in packs ganking players... then lets talk about the ever oppressive Zerker that has been the #1 top ranking class in both PVE, 1v1, Siege and GVG (not to mention the #1 choice class for all Speed hackers)  for OVER 6 years this class was and has been the most OP trash and gets constant buffs... shall we eve discuss the succession?!?!?!?!!

Over the years there has been a small bit of existence of classes that over take all others for a short period of time.. but back 6 years ago when every skill had a SA and if you EVER fought a warrior abusing FPS correctly and you get kneed to death or go look at the RBF top ranking players in RBF with 100k+ kills <-- this was the Warrior even during Mystic times...

So then lets talk about what made the Mystic OP and soo dramatic back then... Awakened mystic came out January 3rd 2018 during a point in the game were EVERY SKILL had an SA or a FG this was a period that made anyone a god and literally face roll keyboard with highest GS to win <-- ANY grab class was #1 want to know what happened 3 and a half months later?????  May 2018 ALL SA and FG were removed from the game for 3 weeks and Mystic got nerfed at the same time. After this period that i remember well PA trickled SA and FG back on skills for almost a year constantly changing entire classes.

She never regained her roll as a top class ever again to this day at best she has been a B Tier in everything except 1V1 with Succession. i Remember a whole different world 6 years ago were some people may be stuck in a 3 month loop from back then i without a doubt I can say go get your Binky and warm milk you have no place in this discussion.

Yeah, a lot of people were and still are salty over a class state from 6 years ago. It was oppressive to fight against for them if they didn't know what they were doing, even worse if they had no grab or were a magic damage dealer. It was even worse in KR before the awakening made it to other regions as well. The fact of the matter is that it was strong like in the way PA likes to do with new class releases, so it was fairly easy for anyone to pick it up and at least do something without investing much time to learn it. Especially since those were a time where there was much more protection, more CC, and no CC cap.

This isn't a complete list, but some things i distinctly remember would be:

- Martial Spirit passive at the time reduced WP/MP/SP by 10 per hit on 15 skills, 4 of those skills being used frequently and fully protected with low cooldowns. In a time where fairies and perma pots didn't exist, it was really easy to choke someone out of using skills to retaliate by just trading in their face if they had no grab. Pot macro users couldn't counter it. Tidal Burst was probably the biggest offending skill because it was full SA with a linger, healed per hit, CC'd, and a 3 second cooldown.

- The +15% evasion buff the class had was hard to break through for some classes couple with Howling Wolf passive.

- Black Spirit Rage regenerating in seconds when you were constantly hit, which made BSR Rising Dragon a cancerous thing to deal with in KR because the skill initially had the vacuum in PVP for a brief period of time.

- It was easy to put someone's weapons away by constantly CCing them with no CC cap.

If you hung out in KR streams and saw someone ask "which is the most op class?" or whatever, a lot of the streamers would always without missing a beat say "Mystic", or they would be crying about it in some encounter. It also didn't help that a lot of people with high GS would fotm over to Mystic too. IIRC PA even mentioned Mystic specifically in one stream in the past to try and get them to complain less about it, by saying a lot of their encounters are with highly geared people on the class. They still ended up giving it several rounds of nerfs and some "shut up nerfs". So yeah, i wouldn't say it is "fictitious backlash" as you put it because there were definitely a lot of people complaining about the class for multiple reasons. They never let it go, and probably never will despite how weird that makes them.

With that said, i want the class to be updated because it is behind in performance. The reboot was good in some areas, and worse in others, overall making it worse off than it was. It also still has really old bugs that interrupt your combos if you use your skills too fast in certain optimal orders. I've made a feedback thread in the forums here, one in KR forums, sent a lot through the labs feedback forms, and one through Support feedback forms. Other Mystic mains have done the same, but the number of Mystic players actively trying to send and participate in feedback probably isn't high enough for PA to care. Best bet i guess is to try and convince others to be more active in feedback, and to tell them to upvote and comment on posts.

You and me could prob go back and forth for hours about this topic and mystic 6 years ago.

Mystic is the class that got me to dedicate the better part of a Decade of my life to BDO. Succession came out as i was getting ready to quite BDO do to all the nerfs the awakening got to the point she was no longer viable in much of anything. I always loved her Pre awakening but the only reason to use it was to get the shards needed for your dragons you had to swap to pre awakening that literally did zero damage.

Its funny going way back i made a video showing a friend how to get the shards needed for 2nd dragon in a combo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etIJIRGctSg

Succession came in the nick of time and was an absolute hot mess when it came out, between the bugs and for about a month and a half she had NO Movement i wish it was like other classes when succession came out but just like current Mystic it was a half hearted attempt. I beleive that PA was terrified to make a strong Mystic again the similar thing can be seen in the complete Trash that is Awakened Meagu which is fun to play BTW just completely worthless.

Over the years even with the reboot really never fixed her issues, one of them being the Self CC bug when as you stated from the speed of which you do your combos and skills when it would CC you between roaring and wave orb This bug lasted YEARS.

Another is the weapons being put away in mid air even though your in SA or i frame that is still in game after almost 2 years since the reboot.

One of the things i realized is that all the gear that i had even though i loved my mystic damn near made me a god on any other class. Literally the only way you can be a successful mystic currently is out gearing everyone by 50+ GS or being a DP meme.

Currently i have had limited success and fun with her again as a High ap bomber monkey in RBF, With 330 ap 406dp, with nouver, Dr/accuracy build. I am also using a DP/evasion crystal set up with untouchable light stones. She has enough burst to kill no problem and the grab is helping a lot with current Meta, obviously unless the person is a super high geared evasion player she can easy combo anyone in a 1v1. But the min you toss in 1 or 2 more well lets say she is not longer viable to 1vX.

But again anyone with 680gs on Succ/awakened sage, Zerker or just about any other new class can out preform a mystic. 

As you stated "With that said, i want the class to be updated because it is behind in performance. The reboot was good in some areas, and worse in others, overall making it worse off than it was." The problems that we face,  this is not just a Mystic issue we are at a point were a simple "Buff" is not longer fixing anything except to placate the Novice or Inexperienced.

There are 60-70% of ALL classes and specs that simply cant compete.. Look at the Meagu she was WAY over tuned, TBH her mechanics were absolutely insane they had to nerf her. But they gimped her so bad that she is literally carrying a 80% pvp reduction in skills AND split damage.. they also removed her evasion Rip just to allow other classes to compete with her.. They also nerfed her PVE as well which made no sense at all now she is going to get buffed to bring her in line or back to were she was.

Woosa is strong as well both of these classes out pace almost all of the previous classes.. as did Hash, Sage... Succ Corsaire even Nova both succ and awakeneing.. all these classes with the new gimmicks pretty much make all the 1st gen classes look like clowns.

No the issue is no longer rooted in Buffs and lets be honest the Reboot was a Reboot for like 3 or 4 classes outside of the 1st set that were actually reworked I.E. Ranger for example the rest were tweaks to SA/FG some cool downs and damage buffs thats it.

The Mystic needs a lot more than just a few buffs to bring her back inline with the rest of the classes all of which PA just doesn't seem to understand what to do to fix anything.

Now they are in full on panic mode realizing that all there new cash cows have left the game (took less than 2 months) leaving the long term players still here and pissed off.

As always they jump on the LETS JUST BUFF EVERYONE  and give them more survivability ?!?!?!?! Everyone will be happy and shut up.. in the past i would say this has worked, but i don't think it is this time. The Player Base is very unhappy with the current Version of BDO will this translate into meaningfull changes.

Lets put it this way if PA jumped like they did for the falure that is the cross asian NW to help the KR players we would have nothing to worry about... but lets be honest here we will all be playing another game before they ever listen to players in NA then they will beg us to come back.