BDO PVP is objectively bad in many aspects.  Even to the point that you could argue RuneScape PVP or games from 30 years ago did a better job.  If you compare it to any real competitive sport it gets an immediate 0 in every category.

The failure of BDO PVP has been increasing and now includes ANY form of combat.  Look at all the complaints about large scale.  Then think back and realize it's always been that way.  Think about how broken 1v1 is.  Then remember it's always been that way.

Also remember the mentality of the community:

Lingering SA is completely broken when others use it, it's perfectly fine when I roll the class and abuse it

Replace lingering SA with infinite grabs, 360 block, ranged grabs, instant cast, Iframe spam........it's nothing less than a complete failure.

I hope you are speaking for yourself as your troll / poison wheel attempt have nothign to do with "fact" as you just tried to twist the meaning of what i've said  regarding why i endorse first channel with forced pk disabled instead of a "full pve rework or nothing"

And yet even after a second time explaining it again ( as you seem to have issue to grasp simple concept sometime ), you still try to ignore it and force your poisonwheel.

And the others part neither are related to fact, as its a vision you want to have for something, and ofc, cant deal with the fact that someone tell you "no the vision you want to have isnt the "ONE" and only one"

Also,t he fact that you changed what i've said into "bla bla" in your quote actual display very well your intent of ignoring what i've said you try to force your point.

Go back to the "forum pvp" kindergarden, come back if you ever are able to grow up.

"But what to expect from person that like to calls his chars with names of poisons" KEKW, your envy of running personal attack are so patheticly strong that you try to pretend "understand" why i named my witch by a poison.  ( your way to see things is SO limited = ofc necessary directed toward conflict with others, its a big yikes )

Man, you better stop, you are just so sad.

Well I said I wont feed you but after this post full of attacks and nothing on topic  you deserve it.

After your embarasing answer to Sadalsuud Its clear that you eithar have issues of understanding the simple conseptions or you are so eager to attack and troll that you.. well make yourself fool. And yet you try to attack people and acuse them with acquisitions that perfectly describes you.Like every time.  Been a 12 years dont excuse you. At this point you are nothing more than forum jester.

You want me to stop to troll when I asked your simple question and you answer it. It sad that you are not happy from you own answer and you attack... now thats sad.

 And I thought you could lead a normal converstion, but all its troling and attacks. Gues you never learn.

And please, avoid to bring salaud like if that guys is a reference, because never able to bring any argument regarding why pve channel would be detrimental, trying to throw diversion to not answer, claiming "you want change not existing in BDO" ( so you neither should request "karmabombing change" right ? )

trying to "condemn" my behavior with a exemple where he claim that hammer are only made to be used with nails.

Yeah, its not the first time you do that, once you run out of argument or cant go against and you have nothing relevant to say, you do that; Now, whatever how you try to make look like you are the poor victim harassed by how mean i'am, everything is wrote and visible.

Dont bother too much you will fool no one ( other than yourself )

 I realy realy laugh everytime you answer that way. Two reasons. First, you try to impose your behavior on someone else. Second, dont you thing is not very smart to use every time the same sentence? Whats next? Hammer and nails (that arent even yours) and the fly ? Oups hammer and nails are in this same post.

 And dont you thing is little hypocrite to atack someon for the same behavior you use. Or its ok for you but not ok for others ?

And please, avoid to bring salaud like if that guys is a reference, because never able to bring any argument regarding why pve channel would be detrimental, trying to throw diversion to not answer, claiming "you want change not existing in BDO" ( so you neither should request "karmabombing change" right ? )

trying to "condemn" my behavior with a exemple where he claim that hammer are only made to be used with nails.

That was little hard to understand. No wories english is not your main language. But if I did not understand you right, my answer might be wrong.

There were manyarguments why PvE server would be bad. Many. If you dont want to see them its your personal problem. If you missed them by any chance I suggest you to reed the topic from the begining. Carefuly.

 Otherwise , sory to bring it again, but its closest example - there are many proves that Earth is globe and none that is flat, yet some people believe its flat...

i'am sorry to not be sorry, but at this point : LOL. I understand your little pride excess make you adopt that behavior and you really dont like beeing called out for that. But avoid to insist in this way, you perfectly know it will not work with me.

 I only make fun with you, and it works great. And many time I try to talk to you like normal person, but you just dont want it. Accept that there are people that think different from you, acccept that you might be wrong. Respect others point of view. You are not the most important person in the world. This will be the begining. And you may deserve some respect. Until then you know what I think about you.

I did it. Many times, in fact, on these forums pour the previous ones. And I asked you to do the same, but you only repeated fallacies where your personal definitions are an absolute basis and truth. You failed.

About the hammer and nails, thanks for proving that you can't read. Quote the reference and prove your inability to catch the point, or don't quote and stay a liar.

My win in any case, you shouldn't badmouth me when you can't stand your ground, above all when I was finally leaving you to your delusions.

You are one to talk about someone else delusions. When you yourself sprout  delusions of knowing for a fact that PvE only servers are bad for the game. When the facts of Seasons and Olvia proves day in and day out. That PvE only servers are not only good for the game. But is also highly populated, more in demand, and brings in more players than the normal servers. Most people I see usually only plays Seasonal and Olvia channels or quits the game after touching the forced PvP servers.

PvEvP servers was never about what's healthy for the game. They are only about what's healthy for the Devs short term profits. They serves a niche of cannibalizing the playerbase over time. In order to sell Whales the power to harass other players. That's all there is too it. 

The only proof you need is to look at other MMOs that don't sell other players as content to the Whales. Both ESO and FFXIV each have more activly players in just the EU and NA regions. Than BDO have in over 155 countries in total. And speaking of ESO, there is way more consistant PvPing going on in that game in just NA. Than BDO can manage worldwide.