Every server is already a PvE server. Arsha is the only PvP server and even then, it's less of a PvP server than when the game launched. If you didn't know, on launch, if you died to PvP, you lost exp. PvP was a lot more effective back then because people couldn't really just die over and over. If you killed them, they would usually leave the area.

They have since removed this, made the karma penalty for killing a player WAY higher, and added more negatives for red players. As such, they have already catered to those who don't want forced PvP by making it way less detrimental and way more punishing for those doing the PKing.

There are over 30 years of solid data that disprove this.  Just because you say something clearly doesn't make it true.

Even the Kakao polls which do not include the majority of actual gamers still showed the majority wanting PVE.  In games where there is a selection between PVE and PVP the overwhelming amount of players reside on PVE.

The factual data will supercede any of your comments to the contrary.

Any pve only servers should be locked,you enter but then can never go back to normal servers. There could be a permanent buff to life skills( I don't think it necessary) but mobs should stay. Not all pve only players are just wanting to life skill. How do you complete the story quests without mobs?

Double post.

30 years of data, yet no citations or references. K.

"Even the Kakao polls which do not include the majority of actual gamers still showed the majority wanting PVE"

This doesn't make logical sense. If the polls do not include the majority of actual gamers, how does it then show the majority wanting PVE? Majority of what? What do you mean by "actual gamers"? Be more clear, because this doesn't make sense.

The factual data will supercede any of your comments to the contrary.

In normal discussion / debate scenarios, this claim would need to be backed up by empirical, referenceable, and credible data. You've provided zero. So I conclude you're talking out of your buttocks until proven otherwise.

Things which are self evident, personally witnessed, or general knowledge don't need the same scrutiny.  It's your lack of information in this case which is the problem.  Anyone for example that played Asheron's Call for example knows that the overwhelming majority of players resided on the non PVP servers.

Just because you are not aware of things doesn't erase history.  In fact for a decade while the game was popular NO ONE would even question this.  It was simply understood by everyone.

BDO is only a small fraction of the gaming community.  Naturally, it will slant even more to the PVP side than the actual true gaming community.  Thus everything is against you.  Even in a smaller community for a PVP based game the results where the majority often rejected PVP or wanted to play in a PVE environment.  That's the best case example and it still fails.

The best way to solve this back and forth would be for Pearl Abyss to add PVE test servers. Let people know they will go away if they are not popular. That way we have evidence what the actual playerbase prefers. If they are popular, add more test servers and make them officia. We already have Olvia servers, it would be relatively straight forward to create an extended Olvia server for testing. Pear Abyss could then go one step further and see what kind of income their player fanbase brings.

Let the players decide. Not the vocal minority that post on the forms.

"Blablabla I don't have to prove it because it's obvious"

Sure, I needed to hear that from a handful of self-centered players that stay together and conclude that they're the only ones existing. Your words would make rigorous scientists jump by the window. 

Now, the one thing you're not understanding : players here don't have to choose, they can have both at the same time. That's precisely why it is different from all these games which chose the easy way instead of thinking about a middle ground. Asheron's Call separated players? Cool, Lineage 2 didn't do it. 

But in the end, except your conviction, you have nothing. Devs have the numbers, they know the situation, they showed us that they are ready to make anything if it means more money... 

... But there's still no regular pure pve channel. Guess why, buddy? 

But go on, keep on throwing random numbers, references, certitudes... And check this simple fact to remind you that Devs know. See you, buddy! 

The best way to solve this debate is for pearl abyss to have a link in game to a poll on whether people want some pve servers. Then the results would be unarguable. We have had many different polls over the five years  in the old forum and every one of those  polls had more wanting pve servers but this has always said to not be a true representation of the player base. An in game poll would settle this once and for all.

True, if they clearly explains how they would like to create them, and the potential changes on the game.

Because throwing them without any change is totally different from creating them with restrictions.