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Do not centralise NA servers and the arguments/suggested alternatives for this
17. Dez 2023, 11:32 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Dez 2023, 11:32 (UTC)
# 1

Family Name: Bwi

Region (NA/EU): NA

Suggestions/Comments: 
Centralising the NA server may provide a small benefit to NA players but will pose a larger disadvantage to Australia + NZ player base. 
Currently, best possible ping from NZ to San Jose Servers with direct connection via VPN is 140ms. From East coast Australia is approx 160-180ms. The Distance from NZ to NA West coast via the most direct connect - the Southern cross undersea cable (NZ-Hawaii-US West coast near san jose) is approx 10,000km. This approximates to 140/10,000 = 0.014ms/km as the best possible ping. The West coast to East coast distance of NA is approx. 4600km. an East coast player with optimised direct connections to US west coast servers may theoretically get 64ms ping. Commonly reeported pings from East coast to West coast is 80ms. If NA server is relocated to the middle of the US, the ping change for East coast players will be 64/2=32ms reduction to ~30-50ms. The ping increase for west coast players will be similarly 32ms from 10-20 to 40-70ms. The ping increase for Australia/NZ players will be to at least 190-210ms  and 170ms approximately. 

I have been playing from NZ since launch with 140-160ms ping depending on VPN use and believe that a ping increase at the already high numbers of 140ms to 170ms will have much more negative impact on game experience than a ping reduction from 80ms - 50ms. In other words I believe the positive effect of 80ms to 50ms ping redution for East coast players will be much less noticeable than the negative effects of a ping increase from 140 to 170ms for the Australian and New Zealand player base. Thus I would ask for a reconsideration of NA server centralisation. 
Pings higher than 60-80ms from East coast to the current US West coast servers are due to Internet connection route pathing rather than distance. This can be improved with dedicated VPN use to optimise connection pathing. Centralisation of server will do little to correct poor routing of internet connections. Centralisation will also only exchange one group of satisfied players who live close to the server for another group who lives closer to the proposed central servers. As argued above, the actual benefit I believe will be minimal in actual gameplay for NA players. The negative impact I believe from personal experience will be definitely noticeable for Australian and New Zealand players will already high ping.

Possible solutions: 
-Do not change server locations (Saves alot of effort. The benefits as argued above may be minimal)
-Offer Character transfers to SEA servers for Australian/New Zealand players if NA servers are to be centralised
-Pick a new server location close to US west coast still.
-Incorporate a VPN service with BDO to help optimise ping instead of changing server locations
-Disregard this suggestion. Australia+New Zealand are in a disadvantaged location for ping and I understand+accept this. 


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Lv Privat
Cestlabwi
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Dez 2023, 18:31 (UTC)
# 2

Im on the east coast and get 140-160 ping without a vpn. Strangely, I get around the same ping when connected to EU. On the new central global central I get a 30 ping so its a vast improvement at least for me. You also need to consider most of canada population sits close to the US border near chicago as well. I would test the global and see what your ping is - may or may not be a deal breaker. But at the very least I think allowing a server transfer would be ideal.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Dez 2023, 20:51 (UTC)
# 3

Fantastic point.
PA are always happy to market this game to a worldwide audience, and are equally as happy to take your money.

But they do nothing to cater for those people located in Australia or NZ, or surrounding areas.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 17. Dez 2023, 23:13 (UTC)
# 4
On: Dec 17, 2023, 18:31 (UTC), Written by Tist

Im on the east coast and get 140-160 ping without a vpn. Strangely, I get around the same ping when connected to EU. On the new central global central I get a 30 ping so its a vast improvement at least for me. You also need to consider most of canada population sits close to the US border near chicago as well. I would test the global and see what your ping is - may or may not be a deal breaker. But at the very least I think allowing a server transfer would be ideal.

Connection routing, server host/hardware and user hardware can affect the quality of your connection. 

With an optimal connection, east to west coast ping should be between 60 to 90ms. It is highly likely that the routing of your connection is sub-optimal and also likely that the server host/hardware and your own hardware (e.g router) is not the best.

You can check minimum, average and maximum ping values on WonderNetwork. Keep in mind that these ping times do not factor in additional latency created by your computer and router.

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Lv Privat
Violetta
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 18. Dez 2023, 00:00 (UTC)
# 5
On: Dec 17, 2023, 23:07 (UTC), Written by Kuree

Connection routing, server host/hardware and user hardware can affect the quality of your connection. 

With an optimal connection, east to west coast ping should be between 60 to 90ms. It is highly likely that the routing of your connection is sub-optimal and also likely that the server host/hardware and your own hardware (e.g router) is not the best.

You can check minimum, average and maximum ping values on WonderNetwork. Keep in mind that these ping times do not factor in additional latency created by your computer and router.

Yeah definitely a routing issue of some kind. Most games west coast I pull around 80-90 ping. I've tried exitlag and mudfish but they cause me to disconnect quite often so Ive just got used to the 150 ping.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 18. Dez 2023, 05:18 (UTC)
# 6
On: Dec 18, 2023, 00:00 (UTC), Written by Tist

Yeah definitely a routing issue of some kind. Most games west coast I pull around 80-90 ping. I've tried exitlag and mudfish but they cause me to disconnect quite often so Ive just got used to the 150 ping.

A first strike approach for Pearl Abyss should involve contacting their server host and consulting with them to determine whether the routing to the server can be optimised, if not Pearl AByss should then look into partnering with and endorsing a VPN/tunnelling service that can provide the most direct routing from various east coast U.S cities to the west coast server location.

Additionally, Pearl Abyssr should provide discounts for players who are purchaasing the VPN/tunnelling service as well as providing in game rewards on a monthly basis to encourage the usage of the service; more users using the service, the better the overall performance and stability of the server.

Moving the physical location of the server should be a last resort, something that is considered when the above options are exhausted and deemed inadequate to address the issue.

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Lv Privat
Violetta
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 18. Dez 2023, 05:35 (UTC)
# 7
On: Dec 18, 2023, 05:18 (UTC), Written by Kuree

A first strike approach for Pearl Abyss should involve contacting their server host and consulting with them to determine whether the routing to the server can be optimised, if not Pearl AByss should then look into partnering with and endorsing a VPN/tunnelling service that can provide the most direct routing from various east coast U.S cities to the west coast server location.

Additionally, Pearl Abyssr should provide discounts for players who are purchaasing the VPN/tunnelling service as well as providing in game rewards on a monthly basis to encourage the usage of the service; more users using the service, the better the overall performance and stability of the server.

Moving the physical location of the server should be a last resort, something that is considered when the above options are exhausted and deemed inadequate to address the issue.

 I prefer the central location since it improved my ping by a lot. I rather not be asked to pay extra to play this game when PA can just move the server.

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Aybi
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 18. Dez 2023, 05:54 (UTC)
# 8
On: Dec 18, 2023, 05:35 (UTC), Written by Cursed

 I prefer the central location since it improved my ping by a lot. I rather not be asked to pay extra to play this game when PA can just move the server.

Understandable. However, moving the servers doesn't come cheap and takes time, hence why I provided more reasonable solutions to try out first. Moving the physical server location also negatively impacts players outside of North America which will results to poorer server stability due to the increase in latency from outside-of-US connections.

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Violetta
Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 18. Dez 2023, 06:57 (UTC)
# 9

I hope they don't change the server location D:

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 18. Dez 2023, 07:14 (UTC)
# 10
On: Dec 18, 2023, 05:35 (UTC), Written by Cursed

 I prefer the central location since it improved my ping by a lot. I rather not be asked to pay extra to play this game when PA can just move the server.

Australian and New Zealand players have to pay for a VPN like ExitLag, it's mandatory to play the game. It's not a big ask for east coast players to get a VPN to improve their ping. I have friends that went from 150 or so ping down to 70-80 ping. Instead, east coast players are quick to throw us Oceanic players under the bus for a minimal improvement in ping and won't even try a VPN.

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