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Remove PvP Resists
12. Jan 2024, 04:02 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 08:38 (UTC)
# 11
On: Jan 12, 2024, 07:05 (UTC), Written by EgoAdAstra

Honestly, this is not a bad idea. The developers should remove resists in PvP. Then give every spec of a class that don't have a grapple ability, a break gapple ability on at least a 20 second cool down. Thoese two changes alone would redeem BDO PvP scene integrity a little. Which would make BDO's PvP scene more appealing to actually PvPers outside of BDO.

I think the answer to that is the temporary SA buff that classes get such as Sages, Guardians, and Novas. They can get grabbed but since they have a SA buff active they will instantly stand back up. Honestly since Warrior already has 30% ignore grapple, landing a grab is never a problem for us. If resists were removed, not much would change for Warriors. This is balanced by Warriors longer "missed grab" animation. So, if they Were to remove resists, I do think a fair balance would be to lengthen the "missed grab" animation for other classes so they also share this weakness as it allows a fair punishment for missed grab. See what I mean in the following link - 

https://www.twitch.tv/goldsteinburg/clip/AgileAggressiveMoonDendiFace-vb0SV3J5AaYPJnPx?filter=clips&range=all&sort=time

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 08:44 (UTC)
# 12
On: Jan 12, 2024, 04:26 (UTC), Written by Servicetime

remove resist and give grab immune to certain moves like corsair will be nice(only to some moves that cannot be canceled or etc)

If they lowered the punish time on warriors failed grab to match that of other classes like rangers grab, I wouldn't mind seeing more of the SA buffs in the game (like sage who gets perma sa for a duration and if he is grabbed during that buff he instantly stands back up), but atm Warrior is always in a losing battle vs classes like corsair UNLESS he lands a grab, and if he goes for a grab its usually too easily punished since he has a long miss animation. I wouldn't be totally against meeting that halfway where if we DO fall for the trap and grab during SA buff, we still have a fighting chance to kite away. But ngl that could be a little overpowered, things like that will have to wait and see how their future balancing is handled (as they said they are going with Option 2 which is a more FG heavy game with less SA meta) 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 08:55 (UTC)
# 13
On: Jan 12, 2024, 08:38 (UTC), Written by Ascenn

Fair points on the grab stuff.

On the re-cc resist though, how does this balance into large scale (capped) where typically people will be running maximum resists. Also where people will typicall run an ignore-resist for their main cc. Are we ruining build diversity by doing this where everyone will just run raw damage/defence setups.

Ngl I wouldn't mind if we all just got to pick ONE CC to perma resist and ONE CC to perma ignore resist, I think that would allow for a better "build diversity" than the current RNG state (just a thought lol). At the moment, especially in capped pvp, it is mostly people building max resist to all types of cc's and a player running max ignore for 1 type of CC. It effectively removes large portions of classes kits which just isn't fun. I think no resists in capped pvp would be way more fun. You see someone in a FG and hit them in the back, expect a cc. That's their punishment for exposing an opening to an enemy. Instead of the 50/50 that it works which is the current situation. There IS no build diversity in Capped pvp. Most guilds post a crystal set you are supposed to run, and everyone runs the same crystals lol. You run max resist, and pick an ignore resist based on your class. The creativity of it is just not there. Same problem with the awakening "core" abilities... it was introduced to bring in a build diversity but on most classes you permanently run one specific core as it is better than the rest. Diversity has always been BDO's weakness, maybe if they reduce some of the distractions they can focus on working towards actual mechanics that can be used creatively. Unfortunately for BDO the only true aspect of diversity is your playstyle ie positioning/aggression. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 10:48 (UTC)
# 14

First give more tools to avoid CCs to certain classes, then maybe remove them.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 11:54 (UTC)
# 15

agree they definitely should remove resistance.

remove grab from the game.

I know they want to add to all classes but that's the most stupidest thing I've ever heard because the grab crates Toxic players.

you grab a player and you feed them to a monster. seen that multiple times happen to players and sure for the other player it feels good the one that is doing but the other one only loses crystals.

so allow that kind of behavior to happen it's only going to create toxic Behavior for the future of Black Desert online.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 12:23 (UTC)
# 16
On: Jan 12, 2024, 11:54 (UTC), Written by Tolyiko

agree they definitely should remove resistance.

remove grab from the game.

I know they want to add to all classes but that's the most stupidest thing I've ever heard because the grab crates Toxic players.

you grab a player and you feed them to a monster. seen that multiple times happen to players and sure for the other player it feels good the one that is doing but the other one only loses crystals.

so allow that kind of behavior to happen it's only going to create toxic Behavior for the future of Black Desert online.

The majority of times the people that are feeding you are not grabbing, but stealthing in, using iframes and knocking you down or stunning you in packs. If someone grabbed you, they are taking damage from the mobs as well.

Also, taking away resistances seems like that would be awful for front line classes in node wars unless im missing something. Melee classes would be obliterated.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 16:12 (UTC)
# 17
On: Jan 12, 2024, 12:23 (UTC), Written by GodSlinger

The majority of times the people that are feeding you are not grabbing, but stealthing in, using iframes and knocking you down or stunning you in packs. If someone grabbed you, they are taking damage from the mobs as well.

Also, taking away resistances seems like that would be awful for front line classes in node wars unless im missing something. Melee classes would be obliterated.

Thus is why BDO has very little chance to attract and retain PvPers past 60 days. For BDO's PvP scene to be attractive to mainstream PvPers from other MMOs and dedicated PvP games. BDO's combat systems would have to go through a complete paradigm shift. Which I'm pretty sure that the players who crutch off of flaws of the current combat system in PvP. Would not want it to change and force them to actually fight on a more equal playing field. 

Which is why I'm extremely happy that Pear Abyss is going to swap off of the Easy Anti Cheat. Because it allows me to play BDO while PvPing in other titles that are more suitable for skill-based balanced PvP at the same time. 

I think there will come a time in the near future. Where BDO PvPers will have to decide between easy unfair PvP victories and populated PvP scene. But we all watch this group of players destroy PvP in many MMOs in the past. Then after they chased everyone else out of said MMOs. They get bored of the competition between peers. Then also jump ship to the next MMO that allows them to get easy low effort low skill PvP wins.

At the end of the day. It is what it is. It is up to the developers and company to choose the fate of their game's systems. All we can do is either play or not play. Everything else is just a folly and a complete exercise in futility.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 15:19 (UTC)
# 18

Title

"Remove PvP Resists"

Pa: "I heard Remove PvP", "Didn't we already do that?"

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 18:44 (UTC)
# 19

cant wait for every grab class to have 100% landrate if this suggestion gets through. /sarcasm

imagine every class not failing grab ever like warriors, zerkers and gauntlets. no thnx. unless every class has multipple ways to anicancel skills into more iframes to avoid multiple opponents climbing on them like ants on some sweet food dropped and glued to the floor (thats how it feels NOW for awakened casters and it can only get worse if grabs cant be resisted or class spec doesnt get additional ways to counter grapples(yes multiples)).

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 12. Jan 2024, 17:03 (UTC)
# 20
On: Jan 12, 2024, 16:42 (UTC), Written by WhySoSeeryus

cant wait for every grab class to have 100% landrate if this suggestion gets through. /sarcasm

imagine every class not failing grab ever like warriors, zerkers and gauntlets. no thnx. unless very class has multipple ways to anicancel skills into more iframes to avoid multiple opponents climbing on them like ants on some sweet food dropped and glued to the floor (thats how it feels NOW for awakened casters and it can only get worse if grabs cant be resisted or class spec doesnt get additional ways to counter grapples(yes multiples)).

Nah that is not allowed in BDO, since most of the current PvPers in BDO enjoy abusing unfair broken PvP mechanics for near effortless victories. And since the developers turned to issue into a popularity contest, there is no hope. If your class can't compete with the chosen easymode classes, you are left with a few choices.

A.) Reroll to one of the easy mode near effortless grab bot to win classes. (Become a slave to the meta.)

B.) Enjoy being their fodder. 

C.) Get so much gear that you can blow them up while they hold Q-Block while they wait for their grab to come off of cooldown. (So spend an insane amount of time and or IRL money.)

D.) Accept that some classes completely hard counter yours, while having no counters themselves.

E.) Just forget that PvP even exist in BDO. (Which the majority have already done.)

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