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Sorry, but the PvP system is why I don't enjoy BDO
10. Apr 2021, 06:24 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 02:03 (UTC)
# 351
On: Apr 21, 2021, 22:48 (UTC), Written by Saletri

this to me doesn't make sense. Why would they call for pvp to be back on when they can switch to the non PvE server in that case xD

Because that is one more empty server we have to have for no GD reason.  I don't like the Arsha server either because it is a waste of a server.  Arsha is so empty, other that grinding in hadum orc or monestary...maybe fogans...it is the best server to PvE grind on.  I'm not against specialized servers per say...but I would like for them to be able to be set up in a way where they won't be empty and increase loads on the other servers.  

 

I will say the PvE server crowd does have a point about this game's playerbase not being all that about PvP.  Arsha with the PvP tag keeps so many people away...even with the 50% drop rate boost.  So much so that people in the know use it as the prefered PvE grind spots unless you are in the top grind areas.  And i think a PvE server at FIRST will be crowded AF.  But all the problems I have mentioned will make it a ghost server outside of a few super high geared people using novas to grief entire grind zones and it will be an empty server just like Arsha.   And all the other servers will get just a bit more crowded with more conflicts of rotations and the game will be just a bit worse for those of us who want to grind in peace. They won't add an extra server for PvE server, they will convert one of the normal ones to it.  Now, if they are going to do this and ADD a server...pretty much most of my complaints will go away...but you know they won't.

 

 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 05:16 (UTC)
# 352
On: Apr 10, 2021, 11:40 (UTC), Written by Sandpit

I have no idea why there aren't PvE servers. Problem solved, everyone happy. We have PvP servers so why the heck not PvE?

 

Why not run the experirment?

 

What if they are empty and nobody goes there? Then just get rid of them or just have a single server.

What if they are over crowded and everyone goes there? Then we know there is a genuine need for them, add more.

What if they are about as populer as any other server? Then we know that it's a genuine preference for some people, everyone wins.

I 100% agree. I don't actively PvP because I just don't care for it but I've been PK'd a few times. Not a HUGE bother, really, but I can see where it might be frustrating for any new players that happen to be unlucky enough to come across multiple d-bags in one or two sessions. In spite of my distaste for PvP, I play this game to relax and have fun because it's one of the only MMOs out there with such a wide breadth of activities- life skills, bosses, sailing, etc. If a PvE only channel was available, I'd be on it toot-sweet, if for no other reason than NOT having the inconvenience of people pestering me in an area I'm fully geared for, asking me:

 

"DFS"?
"No... Just, NO, kid. I was here first and feel no compulsion to justify my presence based on a made up mechanic, even IF you feel you can 'farm this spot more efficiently'. Either gank me and take the karma hit or piss off ."

 

Anyway, here's the bottom line: PA is in the business of making money. A good business strategy will evolve over time to serve a wider customer base if it means more revenue, regardless of how many players may insist, "PvP is the spirit of the game". When it comes down to brass tacks, PA is running a company and they will do what makes them the most cash- whether that be bending the knee to whales or adding new features that might attract new players and thus, more Acoin purchases. I've played a lot of MMOs and most that have remained relevant changed over time to reflect a change in the attitude of their player base.


Thing is, I don't get all the 'never-PVE' diehards in the forums pitching a hissy fit and throwing out 5th grade insults toward anyone who mentions that they would enjoy playing on a purely PVE channel. It's just childish and rude. I mean, if these hardcore PvP-ers would never be caught dead logging into a PvE server anyway, why would their feelings be hurt so badly if there were a PvE channel added for those who want to play on it? No skin off their back... Unless they just get their jollies from griefing people.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 05:26 (UTC)
# 353
On: Apr 22, 2021, 04:13 (UTC), Written by Thoehn

I 100% agree. I don't actively PvP because I just don't care for it but I've been PK'd a few times. Not a HUGE bother, really, but I can see where it might be frustrating for any new players that happen to be unlucky enough to come across multiple d-bags in one or two sessions. In spite of my distaste for PvP, I play this game to relax and have fun because it's one of the only MMOs out there with such a wide breadth of activities- life skills, bosses, sailing, etc. If a PvE only channel was available, I'd be on it toot-sweet, if for no other reason than NOT having the inconvenience of people pestering me in an area I'm fully geared for, asking me:

 

"DFS"?
"No... Just, NO, kid. I was here first and feel no compulsion to justify my presence based on a made up mechanic, even IF you feel you can 'farm this spot more efficiently'. Either gank me and take the karma hit or piss off ."

 

Anyway, here's the bottom line: PA is in the business of making money. A good business strategy will evolve over time to serve a wider customer base if it means more revenue, regardless of how many players may insist, "PvP is the spirit of the game". When it comes down to brass tacks, PA is running a company and they will do what makes them the most cash- whether that be bending the knee to whales or adding new features that might attract new players and thus, more Acoin purchases. I've played a lot of MMOs and most that have remained relevant changed over time to reflect a change in the attitude of their player base.


Thing is, I don't get all the 'never-PVE' diehards in the forums pitching a hissy fit and throwing out 5th grade insults toward anyone who mentions that they would enjoy playing on a purely PVE channel. It's just childish and rude. I mean, if these hardcore PvP-ers would never be caught dead logging into a PvE server anyway, why would their feelings be hurt so badly if there were a PvE channel added for those who want to play on it? No skin off their back... Unless they just get their jollies from griefing people.

 

Any reasonable person can draw that conclusion by talking to these toxic PK hungry players. That the only thing they have against PvE only servers. Is that their victims will then have a option to avoid them. Which means they have to fight other wolves like themselves or more powerful. Their one goal in this game is to grief live punching bags.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 05:29 (UTC)
# 354
On: Apr 21, 2021, 22:38 (UTC), Written by Retteo

Was this YOU talking to yourself?

"Well only ignorant ass people jump into a conversation then bring out some trash"

 

Wow what? Did you really post all that trash?

On: Apr 10, 2021, 13:08 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

Buckle up cuz this one is gonna sting,

My guess is that you put about as much energy into BDO as you do into your Marriage and that is Lacklustre. You complain about PVP and that you hate BDO becouse of it, i would agree becouse after a year and 2 months of playing you have a total of 7 char's and not a one of them over lv 59 you have a witch as your profile pic but in fact your main is a SHAI and thats saying a lot cuz your attempt at life skilling is worse than your non completionist attitude that i am guessing your wife nags at your lazy ass for.

 

The sad part is that your wife wears bigger pants and shoe's than you do and i am guessing you cry to her about life not being fair and its why your always stepped on. How she stays with a Beta male such as yourself is beyond me, maybe credit or some family money who knows but i am guessing she fills her life with excitment that you would never be able to show her and yah those kids are most likly not yours....

 

There is always hope you can at least pick a character and do the questline you never attempted and get to 61 in a matter of hours, show your wife that you actually have a set of ballz and maybe half ass attempt to get some gear other than oasis and capotia you got for free instead of spending your life complaining just how unfair it is becouse you were too stupid to even try a SEASON that gave you a PVE only for 3 months at a time.

 

ABSOLUTLY LAZY AND DISCUSTING

 

Hmmm thought i heard Squeeking in the corner.... let me seee hmm Naa nope nothing

 

How about start a new account and maybe i may actually pay attention to what you have to say ooor not who now's

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 05:49 (UTC)
# 355
On: Apr 21, 2021, 22:36 (UTC), Written by Saletri

You are weird.

OK AAANNND your an ass clown.. see how easy that works...

 

Boy can we get a lot accomplised in a 3 word post i bet you thought about that for the past 12days and just couldnt take it anymore so you had to post it... AWESOME i give you credit for the BESTESTTTST PEPEGA COMMENT 10X #1 ID10T AWESOME... NOW go grab your helmet toss on the face sheild and i promise when you goto school and get a better insult your reward will be licking the snozzberries off the windows..

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 05:52 (UTC)
# 356
On: Apr 22, 2021, 05:37 (UTC), Written by ReconKangas

OK AAANNND your an ass clown.. see how easy that works...

 

Boy can we get a lot accomplised in a 3 word post i bet you thought about that for the past 12days and just couldnt take it anymore so you had to post it... AWESOME i give you credit for the BESTESTTTST PEPEGA COMMENT 10X #1 ID10T AWESOME... NOW go grab your helmet toss on the face sheild and i promise when you goto school and get a better insult your reward will be licking the snozzberries off the windows..

You're.  Carry on.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 10:34 (UTC)
# 357
Écrit le : 21 avr. 2021, 22:23 (UTC), par : ReconKangas

Well only ignorant ass people jump into a conversation then bring out some trash that was talked about 10 days previous and act like its some new comment to try and get some attention.. but by all means flame away i can play down in the mud with yah..

No no no, i cherrypicked it for a simple reason, you are biased, and cringe, and still are.

 

Have a nice day tho. Beta male on top of it ? bwahahaha.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 11:16 (UTC)
# 358

Well... In a pvpve setting, players will tend to choose the safest way for their benefits ; if a pure pve appears and is available without restrictions, you can be sure that some players, confident in their gear or class, may see a pure pve channel as more lucrative and go there... Even if they have no problem with owpvp.

 

What's worse is that really highly geared players will be able to completely lock the best spots to make money, with well timed rotations, while others will watch and take the scraps.

That's how a pvpve game can be perverted, by bribing well geared players into going there even if they could defend themselves on regular channels. All for the sake of "trying pure pve settings" for an uncertain result? Going from the current set of tools to solve conflicts into a grinding speed contest is "better"?

 

The "path of least resistance" is the way to go for pvpve players, if they bring such a half-thought changes they would bring harm to their own game and pvpve core design.

If you hate owpvp to this extent, or if you want to be able to kill without consequences, you chose the wrong game. Any position between those 2 sides can find BDO interesting or even enjoyable, despite its flaws.

 

 

There's no magical phenomenon that makes you meet only aggressive overgeared players, you're even more likely to meet players from the same range of GS than you if you choose your spots carefully.

Well, in the flaws I mentioned, we could talk about "rare treasure spots", but usually if you're not greedy you can find uncontested decent grind spots. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 11:16 (UTC)
# 359

Well... In a pvpve setting, players will tend to choose the safest way for their benefits ; if a pure pve appears and is available without restrictions, you can be sure that some players, confident in their gear or class, may see a pure pve channel as more lucrative and go there... Even if they have no problem with owpvp.

 

What's worse is that really highly geared players will be able to completely lock the best spots to make money, with well timed rotations, while others will watch and take the scraps.

That's how a pvpve game can be perverted, by bribing well geared players into going there even if they could defend themselves on regular channels. All for the sake of "trying pure pve settings" for an uncertain result? Going from the current set of tools to solve conflicts into a grinding speed contest is "better"?

 

The "path of least resistance" is the way to go for pvpve players, if they bring such a half-thought changes they would bring harm to their own game and pvpve core design.

If you hate owpvp to this extent, or if you want to be able to kill without consequences, you chose the wrong game. Any position between those 2 sides can find BDO interesting or even enjoyable, despite its flaws.

 

 

There's no magical phenomenon that makes you meet only aggressive overgeared players, you're even more likely to meet players from the same range of GS than you if you choose your spots carefully.

Well, in the flaws I mentioned, we could talk about "rare treasure spots", but usually if you're not greedy you can find uncontested decent grind spots. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 22. Apr 2021, 12:52 (UTC)
# 360
On: Apr 21, 2021, 22:59 (UTC), Written by Saletri

to me none of this matters LOL. If they want a PVE server, give it to them and be done with it. I don't see why the Pvp people are crying about them wanting it. You're gonna pvp so stay on pvp servers xD it's not that deep for either side imo, so who cares. I think y'all fail to realize that people who want to PVE are fine with sharing xp and teaming up and doing things together probably. That's what pve is about at least to me. But instead what I think will happen is PVP players will switch to PVE servers when they want to grind instead of being the PVP player they claim to be~

As you wish. But remember. You've been informed not only by me. ;) 

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