I understand that PA want to do something about People that hunt other...

But just increase the Karma is one of the biggest mistakes

If you want to implement suge huge change to the numbers - need to add a function of loosingless Karma to someone you kill in a short amount of time several times ON THE SAME SERVER ... With server swap - the timer will be reset (NOT character swap - bcs with that ppl still could just grief with several characters!!!) - so hunter still get full karma loss and people that really just defent their spot - still can do it.

Because with that change you just give again a nice tool for the griefer to disturb someone instead of helping people that want peace at grinding

People with higher gear should be able to just slam griefer away without worrying to spend later hours and hours to get that karma back.

This is not a post again karma changes in general -  its a post against changes without overthinking the over situation in this game.

Well, they keep hammering on the same players, but they don't take care of the rudely intruding ksers. As long as they blame pk without taking care of ks, any solution will stay a joke. As we explained it long time ago. 

Yes its a topic for a long time
Yes the Karma change will not care the red player

but just adding the idea from global without any change- will just ASSIST the griefer and karma bomber
But will not help the actuall people that want to grind
My idea is still against GRIEFER but also against HUNTER

with that change Pearl Abyss just adding something with overthinking the whole situation first... And thats the sad point.

A long time ago, Cabal Online had a simple and effective way to protect against mass PK: 3 PK = 12 hours in jail.

If someone wants to pk, let them play on Arsha or go to Call of Duty.

PA is just trying to kill an already dead horse. Grind spots are already barren on the normal channels anyway. Chances to encounter another player are minimal these days. Feels like the server's empty. :)

Let them keep wasting their time with this karma. :)

If you see empty spots, it means that you are in a place where there is no profit and / or there is no desired drop there.

I meet players every day, e.g. on centaurs or blood wolves.

Excuse me? What?

You grind only on those 2 spots? :)

How much trash/h?

You know, I'm personally OK with the concept of jail IG for murderer, and I think it should only go down when the character is connected AND doing various actions.

It would be much more efficient than this change, it won't change anything for dedicated pks. 

You know if you don't flag first you don't loose karma. Rotations are made up, if someone is "on my rotation" just account for it and grind slightly differently or swap servers. They are really punishing angry agro people who flag up for almost no reason except someone is grinding around or in your made up rotation. Grow up

Guys - i understand all your thoughts

but my idea is just still hurting ppl that enjoy killing the same person over and over again
but safe the ppl that get griefed
sure you can also swap when you get griefed - but depend on spot it can be pain to find a free one - and my idea is nothign that will hurt  someone that doesnt deserver
(i know not everyone getting griefed and it got more rare- but still if it happens its a pain - mostly on dehkia lantern spots -bcs swapng server also means 20 durability again)