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Need for dedicated PVE server
22. Apr 2021, 01:20 (UTC)
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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 31. Mrz 2022, 10:42 (UTC)
# 491
On: Mar 31, 2022, 05:58 (UTC), Written by Alphaeus

Prove that 80% want PvE, I would be surprised if it was 8%.  You are off by an order of magnitude at least.  In fact since you are already downvoted 5 to 1 I would say that at the absolute best you can get is 16.6% even that is likely a stretch.

That's even more simple. Many players are not manichean like that, and are ok with some pvp in their game. In short, they are pvpve players and they chose a pvpve game.

And in the grand scheme of things, I'm totally OK with the idea that many players love to play in pve only... But they are smart AND choose a pve game in this case. 

I mean, they won't make anyone believe that pure pve players will massively choose a pvpve game like BDO to then complain about the pvp part, and that they will be legitimate in doing so. 

10k players on steam alone. A handful of players complaining on these forums. All is said. 

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 31. Mrz 2022, 11:07 (UTC)
# 492
On: Mar 31, 2022, 09:17 (UTC), Written by Pixonmate

50/50 is absolutely horrible results given the actual meta.  The MAJORITY of people voting for PVE servers already left BDO years ago, but would still want it.  It's a poll on a game that was supposedly PVP oriented and even the remaining people don't support it that much.  If it was really such a PVP game the voting should have been 95%+ for PVP at all times.  The community is completely skewed and the best they could do was 50/50.

Also I remember older polls showing even more support for PVE.  This was also BEFORE the PVP simply degraded year after year.  This was BEFORE releasing completely broken classes, adding massive damage, adding ranged grabs.

Lets not forget what BDO is. It was never been PvP game. Its always been PvPvE. And if was ever been PvP game what PvE players are looking for in PvP game? And how can you say that BDO is degrading year after year? Its show prety stable numbers. Basicaly any other MMO outher has bigger degrading than BDO. Yes some of them has biger positeve spikes too. But BDO is prety stable. Everyone can open and see steam charts. Sadly is uncomplet compared to all players since it shows only smal part of the real player base, but still is some measurment.

As for vote numbers. If reality is that most people want PvE server, why devs dont listen to them for so many years. After all many players wishes are in game now. But no PvE server after 8 years. Whats your opinion? And pleace dont answer with your favorite clische "devs are incompetent".

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 31. Mrz 2022, 15:32 (UTC)
# 493
On: Mar 31, 2022, 09:17 (UTC), Written by Pixonmate

Also I remember older polls showing even more support for PVE. 

That was 75 to 25 for PVE. But must remember that many pve palyers spoke positively about pvp ... but limited to node war and conquest war.

And therefore the results of this poll did not show the truth, i.e. a colossal advantage of even 95 to 5 for the removal of open pvp from the game. But still 75 is much more than 25 so pvp players are in the minority and nobody cares.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 31. Mrz 2022, 16:34 (UTC)
# 494
On: Mar 31, 2022, 15:32 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

That was 75 to 25 for PVE. But must remember that many pve palyers spoke positively about pvp ... but limited to node war and conquest war.

And therefore the results of this poll did not show the truth, i.e. a colossal advantage of even 95 to 5 for the removal of open pvp from the game. But still 75 is much more than 25 so pvp players are in the minority and nobody cares.

Lies.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Apr 2022, 02:07 (UTC)
# 495
On: Mar 31, 2022, 15:32 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

That was 75 to 25 for PVE. But must remember that many pve palyers spoke positively about pvp ... but limited to node war and conquest war.

And therefore the results of this poll did not show the truth, i.e. a colossal advantage of even 95 to 5 for the removal of open pvp from the game. But still 75 is much more than 25 so pvp players are in the minority and nobody cares.

I thought you said 90% of players wanted PvE channels, now you are saying it's 75%?  You can't even keep your made up numbers straight.

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Apr 2022, 05:06 (UTC)
# 496
On: Mar 31, 2022, 15:32 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

That was 75 to 25 for PVE. But must remember that many pve palyers spoke positively about pvp ... but limited to node war and conquest war.

And therefore the results of this poll did not show the truth, i.e. a colossal advantage of even 95 to 5 for the removal of open pvp from the game. But still 75 is much more than 25 so pvp players are in the minority and nobody cares.

And now, please tell us how many participants for each of these unofficial polls.. 

XD

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Apr 2022, 06:08 (UTC)
# 497
On: Apr 1, 2022, 02:07 (UTC), Written by Alphaeus

I thought you said 90% of players wanted PvE channels, now you are saying it's 75%?  You can't even keep your made up numbers straight.

You have problems with logical thinking. So I will repeat especially for you: most bdo players aren't too smart and don't understand even such a simple vote. So again:  many pve players spoke positively about pvp ... but limited to node war and conquest war didn't choose "pve option" because they didn't understand what they were voting on.

And there is a large group of people who think that "pve only" is the same as removing pvp from the game completely, which is nonsense.

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Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Apr 2022, 07:06 (UTC)
# 499
On: Apr 1, 2022, 06:08 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

You have problems with logical thinking. So I will repeat especially for you: most bdo players aren't too smart and don't understand even such a simple vote. So again:  many pve players spoke positively about pvp ... but limited to node war and conquest war didn't choose "pve option" because they didn't understand what they were voting on.

And there is a large group of people who think that "pve only" is the same as removing pvp from the game completely, which is nonsense.

Quoted as proof. 

For him, most of us are not too smart. 

Or... You're simply trying to slander anyone who disagree with you. 

On: Apr 1, 2022, 06:28 (UTC), Written by Pixonmate

I said PVP degraded, you heard BDO degraded.  The PVE in BDO despite some the broken silver/hr areas is better today than it ever was and gives more reason for people to play and gear up.

There is no such as a PvPvE game.  A PVP MMO has always consisted of both aspects and thus those words have no meaning.

Lineage 2 was a PVP game because it had the ability to kill other players.  It was a given that bosses, quests, and PVE content where of course in the game.  It was an MMO.

BDO shouldn't be classified as a PVP game anymore.  The objective of most players is NOT to fight the other person.  It's to remove them from their location by any toxic/broken/griefing/feeding method possible.  It's only PVP in the sense of one person trying annoy/grief/harass others enough to get their way.  It's not about the combat.  Whoever can be more toxic and grief better wins.

That's why as Mr F on the podcast has finally figured out and become woke to PVP.  People can go around shouting on Arsha their location and looking for a fight.  Yet these people that "claim" they want a PVP game DO NOT GO TO ARSHA.

Yeah, for sure, you're right because everything we can witness in BDO does not exist, in fact... We are in the Matrix... 

And regular channel, Arsha... All are made for pvpve. Only a regular pure pve channel would break this fact, and nothing can prove that a regular pure pve version of BDO would stand a chance in the current market anyway. 

Get your daily hour, that's the best you'll get and that already means a lot for casual players. Apparently, they're more important than a whiny vocal minority. XD

Zeitpunkt der letzten Änderungen : 01. Apr 2022, 07:55 (UTC)
# 500
On: Apr 1, 2022, 06:28 (UTC), Written by Pixonmate

I said PVP degraded, you heard BDO degraded.  The PVE in BDO despite some the broken silver/hr areas is better today than it ever was and gives more reason for people to play and gear up.

There is no such as a PvPvE game.  A PVP MMO has always consisted of both aspects and thus those words have no meaning.

Lineage 2 was a PVP game because it had the ability to kill other players.  It was a given that bosses, quests, and PVE content where of course in the game.  It was an MMO.

BDO shouldn't be classified as a PVP game anymore.  The objective of most players is NOT to fight the other person.  It's to remove them from their location by any toxic/broken/griefing/feeding method possible.  It's only PVP in the sense of one person trying annoy/grief/harass others enough to get their way.  It's not about the combat.  Whoever can be more toxic and grief better wins.

That's why as Mr F on the podcast has finally figured out and become woke to PVP.  People can go around shouting on Arsha their location and looking for a fight.  Yet these people that "claim" they want a PVP game DO NOT GO TO ARSHA.

Double standarts... Both games are so similar. Both games you can kill other players, both games you can mobfeed and been toxic. But you call one of them PvP game and the other not. Simply because you say so. Well I fight for my spot, so I guess BDO is PvP game. If you dont fight for the spot you can call it race game if you want. It doesnt change the fact what BDO is. It has PvE and PvP for its various forms. And yes many many players fight for the spot. Or jsut for the simple fun of Open World PvP. Also many times I said that people complaining from griefing in BDO woudnt last a single day in Lineage2. Mostly because players changed.

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