My Musa just had 3 PvP matches with 3 Separate Awakened Novas (it seems the game is riddled with them these days) at Manshaums who tried to take over where I was grinding at (first).

I did ok as long as I moved around a LOT, like run away attack, run away attack bullshit.  The stun didn't do shit because they recovered from that shit within less than 1/2 a second. I really found out something.  The game is broken beyond belief when comparing classes.  Old classes like Musa really can't compete against newer classes.

Nova has Grab Skill, can teleport or blink, has ranged "black hole" skill bullshit.  Their skills are even faster/more instant as in several cases during a Crust Crusher or even Musa's most basic move: Fiery Crevice I was easily interrupted/stunned (not even a grab move) and Nova's stun lasted at least 1 - 2s longer than Musa stun arrow!  WTF?  And I swear these Novas had AP at least 20 lower than what I had and DP that was similar to mine which is pretty much all TET gear.

I'm just dejected at this point.  I mean what is the point to keep playing this game?  Musa is just a dead class, I admit it now.  It is just not viable compared to newer classes.  There is really no point to keep leveling the class at all.  *sigh.

Ah well I think that's the curtain draw for me.  It seems pretty clear that PA doesn't care shit to balanced classes, I mean they have ignored this for YEARS and suddenly you think they'll do something about it because they casually mentioned it in the Heidel Ball?  LOL.

I guess I'll just play some single player games until Lost Ark comes out.  BDO is broken beyond hope.  Nuff said.

~cheers

Not that I disagree that Nova is in a better place than musa at the moment for PvP, but you do know there's more than 1 type of CC right? They're not all just "stuns". Stub arrow is a stiff which is the shortest CC in the game, meant for an initial catch into a follow up CC. 

Contrary to what a lot of people seem to believe, PA has not "ignored" class balance for years. It's just that there will always be 1-3 standout classes at any given time and people will always complain about those classes. Does no one remember when Ranger was king and people were calling shotgun spam "speedhacking"? Or when Strikers and mystics dominated the game because of how broken they were at the average GS of the time? Or on release DK, new succession ninja, pre-nerf succession wizard, 200% serkers, 100% guardians etc. etc. The list goes on and on. 

LOL ok wise guy tell me what other viable CC Musa has?  Er yeah I thought so.  None.

We don't even have a f*cking Iframe.

Their giving out Grab skill like no tomorrow, like candies dropping from heaven to every new f*cking class out there and now Corsair has Grab resist....but er what happened to the older classes?  Ignored again I c?  Let's just keep chuggin out all these new classes so that we can increase our $$$ profit by getting idiots to keep spending money on them...blah blah blah.

This is what's been happening for years now.  PA hasn't balanced shit.  The only "balance" is that they keep introducing new classes that can trump the last new class and yada yada.  Everyone sees this for what it is.  

*sigh in any case I'm done.  Gonna move on to Last Epoch until one of the new mmorpg comes out.

I'd say good luck to anyone still playing this game but that would be like a curse since there is no luck in this game but regulated "RNG".  BWAHAHAHAHA

You don't have an iframe....? What? Chase is literally an iframe once every what, 4 seconds? And you cannot seriously be telling me that musa has no follow up CCs to stub arrow. Like yea, stub arrow fishing is a legit thing, but no other viable CCs?????

Don't get me wrong, I think you're right about needing more balancing... but you sound like someone who has no idea what they're doing and using class balance as an excuse for your own personal lack of skill.

Dude are you daft?  Chase is not a viable iframe for combat.  Unless you think running away is combat?  I guess you think Musa's should just run away from combat everytime eh?  LOL yeah same f*cking retarded attitude that PA has toward Musa all this time.

lol you do stub arrow and it freezes for like 1/2 a second or less, what exactly does an Awakened Musa to do afterwards for CC?  Have you even played Musa before that you know WTF you are talking about?

I think your the one that has no idea how bad Musa's skill kit is at the moment or you would just shut your mouth and agree. 

Who says you have to run away with chase? Why can't you  run towards them? Or behind them???? Maybe try doing that and using Dbite or something?

How come other people can stub arrow into follow up CCs but you can't? I don't even need to play musa to know that they don't just stub arrow and magically hope lightning strikes their opponent immediately so they die. Maybe watch some guides on how to play the class you allegedly main? Like I said, I think musa's kit IS outdated - but you're clearly clueless about your own class and spouting nonsense that no one can take seriously.

Again I think you have no clue WTF you are talking about.  Use chase to run towards them?  Do you understand that most of these classes now have the GRAB skill?  Do you understand that as soon as Chase ends we are exposed to GRAB skill?  I mean have you ever actually done combat with a Musa to talk the shit that you are doing right now?

Most of the Musa you probably saw are Succession Musa.  Awakened Musa has a different skill tree, although they can switch between normal musa skill and awakened skill but it is cumbersome at best.  As I said before, you really have no clue what you are saying or think you know about Musa.  It's obvious that you have never played a Musa or you would know this as plain as day.

In fact maybe you should go play a Musa for a week and then come cry about how awesome Musa is in PvP without having like over 300AP and 400DP (or some shit like that).

I don't want to argue with you about this anymore. Go look at guides and try to improve yourself or quit - either of these options is fine by me. Stop being so defensive and blaming everything/everyone other than yourself. Musa is a weak class, but not nearly as weak as your mentality  

LOL big words from someone that has an umteenth amount of alts but no Musa in any of them.  You talk a lot of shit but everything you say is pretty much shit cause you really have no clue what you are saying.  I know, it's sad.