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# 31
Écrit le : 2 mars 2021, 20:18 (UTC), par : PeaceInChaos

This "Reto" guy reminds me a lot of someone from the old forum.  Sentence structure, argument strategies, deflection, lack of game knowledge, etc.

 

You probably know who I'm talking about.  Ahem V...cough...or....hack...tex.........gasp..ii.  If it is who I think it is, then KEKW

 

You're absolutely right, the OP is actually Vortexii, aka 2Cents, aka the one who bragged about being the top dog in PVP, who bragged about being a griefer, who got banned so hard for being toxic in the forums that he created a new account in order to escape the consequences of his behavior.

 

This very same "user" that lectures us today and virtue signal so hard hypocritically.

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# 32
On: Mar 2, 2021, 19:56 (UTC), Written by Polyedra

"u can arsha"

retort: "u can olvia and/or 49"

i want red system and owpvp. special no karma ruleset server is a good idea but doesn't fill my needs.

I have never read a sillier comment in my entire life.

Can you have access to all content on Arsha? Yes.

Can you have access to all content on olvia/below lvl 50? No. Thats the difference.

 

What you "need"? You have all you want on Arsha: no limits owpvp (and you even get the reward - higher drop).

So stay on Arsha and ctop crying because other people whants play different way.

 

We (only pve/ life skill players) are players too, and more importantly, we are customers too, we also buying pearls. We even want to buy more but who will pay for a game that does not make him happy because a small percentage of players' pvp spoils the joy of everyone else?

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# 33
On: Mar 2, 2021, 20:45 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

I have never read a sillier comment in my entire life.

Can you have access to all content on Arsha? Yes.

Can you have access to all content on olvia/below lvl 50? No. Thats the difference.

 

What you "need"? You have all you want on Arsha: no limits owpvp (and you even get the reward - higher drop).

So stay on Arsha and ctop crying because other people whants play different way.

 

We (only pve/ life skill players) are players too, and more importantly, we are customers too, we also buying pearls. We even want to buy more but who will pay for a game that does not make him happy because a small percentage of players' pvp spoils the joy of everyone else?

From a business stand point Pearl Abyss is trying desparately to bring in new customers.  They are now advertising Twitch, giving away items, and pushing things like Seasonal Servers.

 

There are a large amount of players out there that simply want to avoid the toxic behavior.  That doesn't preclude PVP either.  They could Siege, Node, RBF, Special Event, Arsha, etc even if PVE servers where established.

 

Logic also dictates the right answers.  IF there is enough game space there is simply no need to trample over others.  It's simply not beneficial and most players wouldn't do it.

 

That's why you can play the game fairly freely in older dead areas.  The problem is you have much lower gains in those areas.  With a more proper PK rule like the desert I also had far less issues.

 

When the players actually faced more consequences for PKing they where FAR LESS LIKELY to do it.  When they knew they could just burn off free karma, they would be very aggressive.

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# 34
On: Mar 2, 2021, 20:22 (UTC), Written by PeaceInChaos

LOL, he literally said he was AFK processing in "COMBAT AREAS".

 

What more needs to be said?  I'm not going to jump in a swimming pool and complain about getting wet!

 

Nuclear explosion from the facepalms.

Except facts matter.  I said for a specific reason (proximity).  I was waiting for crops to finish.  Additionally, if you actually read or cared about the subject you would also know I wasn't actually AFK.

 

You are showing true colors here that you don't care to participate in the conversations.

 

You didn't attempt to address the actual point at any time.  Mainly the intentions and behavior of a person PKing someone in which they would gain absolutely nothing.  No grind spot.  No money.  No points.  Nothing.

 

They PK'd in an attept to harass another player.  In order to ruin what they THOUGHT was an AFK player.  I see you don't like the truth being revealed.  I can understand why.  It doesn't fit into the narrative of a PVP community being honorable and just competing for resources.

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# 35
On: Mar 2, 2021, 19:55 (UTC), Written by Retteo

I don't see any validity to your statements.  What I see in fact is Gas Lighting.  A very good example of the term.

In Reality: BDO added an Arsha Server for those that wanted more OWPVP and to remove the Karma System.

 

Gas Lighting: Meanwhile you pretend it's all pacifist and you need to quit the game because you can't find any PVP.

 

 

It all pacifist, LOL.. u duno grief at all.. and u got no idea what a hostile environment does to a game like this. with real loss. can lose EVERYTHING even.. how about that? this place so tame u can barely get a griefing even if u beg for it.

In reality, this game was made for owpvp. The combat system is made for group pvp, not pve and not for duels. It's blatantly obvious, actually. Look at how little cc work on mobs and u realize that the design was always leaning towards catering to pvp. To lend meaning to this pvp, u have pve and other activities that populate the world with a DIVERSIFIED crowd. A diversity u wish to slay, in the name of economic benefit through complete safety of bartering routes. ya man, u a barterer 100%.. i know that. cuz the pve guys... they sorta pvp too.. they came here for that. I'm sure some pve guys will agree with u, but that's to be expected from almost any group, but they're not pushing this discussion. You are, cause you stand to lose something on the sea and you refuse to accept that so you set out to change the structure of the game.

u a pacifist. don't matter if u pretend a little in rbf, u know. i not a pacifist in a game. irl tho, ofc, but this not real.

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 21:05 (UTC)
# 36
On: Mar 2, 2021, 20:59 (UTC), Written by Retteo

They PK'd in an attept to harass another player.

Ya man, conflict. That harassment may come from a conflict of interest or simple boredom. Don't matter where it comes from, or if the intent is disruptive and destructive, cause it gives the game another dimension.

U don't care for this dimension, u only care for the safe coin u need to make. Then u try and have this look like a pve discussion where helpless crafters are trying to process ore but evil people stop them. Talk about hyperbole and non-factual statements.

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 21:25 (UTC)
# 37
On: Mar 2, 2021, 21:02 (UTC), Written by Polyedra

It all pacifist, LOL.. u duno grief at all.. and u got no idea what a hostile environment does to a game like this. with real loss. can lose EVERYTHING even.. how about that? this place so tame u can barely get a griefing even if u beg for it.

In reality, this game was made for owpvp. The combat system is made for group pvp, not pve and not for duels. It's blatantly obvious, actually. Look at how little cc work on mobs and u realize that the design was always leaning towards catering to pvp. To lend meaning to this pvp, u have pve and other activities that populate the world with a DIVERSIFIED crowd. A diversity u wish to slay, in the name of economic benefit through complete safety of bartering routes. ya man, u a barterer 100%.. i know that. cuz the pve guys... they sorta pvp too.. they came here for that. I'm sure some pve guys will agree with u, but that's to be expected from almost any group, but they're not pushing this discussion. You are, cause you stand to lose something on the sea and you refuse to accept that so you set out to change the structure of the game.

u a pacifist. don't matter if u pretend a little in rbf, u know. i not a pacifist in a game. irl tho, ofc, but this not real.

"The combat system is made for group pvp, not pve and not for duels"

 

Really? This game was made for guilds to exploit the weak and broken mechanics by stacking Succ Wizards?  That's the best the game has to offer?  If that's what you get out of the game and why you are here, you might want to consider leaving.

 

That makes a lot of sense though.  That's why Shadow Arena is flushing.  I heard their log in que's are so large it takes a few days to get into a match.  Just kidding of course that game IS DEAD.  Along with your theory.

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Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 22:12 (UTC)
# 38
On: Mar 2, 2021, 21:22 (UTC), Written by Retteo

"The combat system is made for group pvp, not pve and not for duels"

 

Really? This game was made for guilds to exploit the weak and broken mechanics by stacking Succ Wizards?  That's the best the game has to offer?  If that's what you get out of the game and why you are here, you might want to consider leaving.

 

That makes a lot of sense though.  That's why Shadow Arena is flushing.  I heard their log in que's are so large it takes a few days to get into a match.  Just kidding of course that game IS DEAD.  Along with your theory.

no, that the meta is a certain way doesn't tell us anything.

and that shadow arena is a fail is due to the pvp having no purpose but itself, which was mentioned. but i get u, i don't read ur trash much either.

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 22:19 (UTC)
# 39
On: Mar 2, 2021, 20:45 (UTC), Written by Senemedar

I have never read a sillier comment in my entire life.

Can you have access to all content on Arsha? Yes.

Can you have access to all content on olvia/below lvl 50? No. Thats the difference.

 

What you "need"? You have all you want on Arsha: no limits owpvp (and you even get the reward - higher drop).

So stay on Arsha and ctop crying because other people whants play different way.

 

We (only pve/ life skill players) are players too, and more importantly, we are customers too, we also buying pearls. We even want to buy more but who will pay for a game that does not make him happy because a small percentage of players' pvp spoils the joy of everyone else?

i give u same kind of stupid suggestion u give me. why not go change a different game radically instead?

imma tell u that ur way is the path of death for bdo. first the wolves go, including me.. the wolf in shai clothing.. and then the pvp guys go, cuz it not as interesting anymore.. other games give better pvp maybe, at least different etc.. Then u haz barterer guy u gona "do things with".. before u know it, pve dies.. cuz why farm mobs to farm even greater mobs? that a bit retarded in a game like this, cuz designed for owpvp ofc. then it only bartering guy who make pve servers left to talk to. it the path of death. but whatever. if it's gonna be like that, imma leave then. we gonna see about this.

Last Edit : Mar 2, 2021, 22:28 (UTC)
# 40
On: Mar 2, 2021, 20:54 (UTC), Written by Retteo

From a business stand point Pearl Abyss is trying desparately to bring in new customers.  

There are a large amount of players out there that simply want to avoid the toxic behavior.

And by a "strange coincidence" 99% of new players finish bdo in the second month of the game just when they face open forced pvp toxicity.

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