It appears you need some guidance on how the game works.  The crops have a timer on them.  It's even displayed in a convient percentage.  When it reaches 100%+ you can then obtain the crops.  So if you have crops at 98% you may want to WAIT for them fully ripen.  To be more effective than just standing around you could access a warehouse and process materials in the meantime.

Why don't you know this?

I'm sure you will issue a retraction stating you where wrong and apologize!!

Very well, I apologize at least: Sorry I said u write trash. I read some, pretty good actually. We even agree here and there.

Throwing sticks and stones won't help anything. Sorry I did.

I want different way than you, and you have to admit what I suggest is much more in line with the original vision for bdo. It was supposed to be a sandbox.

For me, your solution doesn't work and will push me out. Let's not argue that point, it's a personal decision.

It may be a good solution for you and it may be a good solution for the company, but it's a terrible solution for a sandbox game. Let's also not argue whether this is or is not a sandbox. I tired.. i actually have fever. So u sit down and be nice with me!

I want  to solve this in the complicated way. Laws is the perfect idea. Punishments like jail and fines, and restrictions. I like that. I want something grand to solve this, I think less will never be enough.

If that doesn't work.. well, perhaps your way is the right one; the way to the future. But for me, then I leave. I got no reason to be salty at u for that. I understand you have your reasons. Don't even care what those reasons are, it's just that.. sometimes people obfuscate them somewhat. I don't like that.. cuz don't like liars. but i don't think u a liar.

Sometimes I get my way.. Like maybe with this bounty system we gonna see something! And other times I don't.

Vortexii, you've got to be kidding me.  Lol, no, I will not apologize when I'm not the one getting caught red handed in deceit.  I simply pointed out your contradiction and backpeddaling, which, I will do again to remind you and to alert readers.  It's quite funny, if I may say so myself.  You're a funny, funny person, Vortexii.  Let me show you how you're so, so funny here:

Your first reply to me.  This is what you said, copy & pasted these to retain your gloriousness (lul), colored and italicized to make it easier to read:

"I was standing in a combat areas recently processing materials. I didn't leave the character there unnateneded.  There was a proximity reason for doing this.  Another player came up and watched.  I thought he was going to PK, and within a minute he did.  A free easy kill for him.  An AFK character processing.  I didn't care much this situation didn't cost me much at all."

I then called you out and replied with this:

"I was standing in a combat areas recently processing materials."

1) Doing an AFK activity in combat areas.

2) Gets PK'd.

3) Complains on forums.

4) Facepalm.

You replied with a comment that directly contradicts your first comment.  Here is the proof:

"Except facts matter.  I said for a specific reason (proximity).  I was waiting for crops to finish.  Additionally, if you actually read or cared about the subject you would also know I wasn't actually AFK."

Yes, facts matter.  So why are you displaying a clear example of deceit?  First you say you were an "AFK character processing" then after exposed, you backpeddal and say you were "waiting for crops to finish" and that you "wasn't actually AFK".  And when you use loose and easily manipulated words or phrases, doesn't it just make it so convenient for yourself if you need to backpeddal?  Good luck backpeddalling out of this one.  Going back and forth like "I was AFK processing, but I wasn't actually AFK" (uwotm8?).

You've been exposed many times on the old forum, Vortexii, you simply cannot get enough, can you?

The evidence is clear as day.  Not sure how you'll try to scrape, claw and reiterate your position out of this one.  When the evidence of your deceit is right in your face.  Let me guess, you don't know what AFK processing is and thought waiting for crops to finish is "processing materials".  You're not to be trusted by anyone seriously interested in BDO.

Haha Poly...I love reading your posts ever since the old forum, you have a certain flair to your writing style that just makes me smile, so thank you :3

This sounds pretty cool!  Imagine the "meaning" behind siege if this was developed and implemented.  A guild gets to create laws in that region for a week, talk about immersion!  OFC, I'd expect certain things about it to be dev controlled, but the overall premise sounds fun and interesting.  This deserves a deeper look, IMO!

It makes a lot more sense now.  You only read things the way you wish they where stated and don't actually care about what is written or what points are being made.  The makes a lot of sense.

Here is a great example:

"A free easy kill for him.  An AFK character processing."

From the PK'ers point of view he is looking for a free kill.  To find someone AFK processing that wouldn't be able to fight back.  However, since you have absolutely no way to defend this argument you intrepret is as "being AFK".

Even your quotes make you look pretty bad since the verbiage is solid.  For example I didn't originally state I was waiting on crops.  I stated from proximity reasons.  Meaning I had things going on in the area.  All of it is coherent and makes sense.

More importantly you don't actually adress ANY issue.  You just trolled the posts and ignored all the valid points that this was an actual example of someone pking simply to be harmful to other players.

You didn't address the fact that this is possible because the player didn't go red even after PKing.  You can't refute this type of behavior is common in PVP games.

So instead you try to argue nonsense about a statement you want to take out of content that doesn't even have relevence.

I pretty much nailed it ;)

Just what I expected, more side tracking, back pedaling and condraticting your own, exact, words. You could've easily avoided this exposure by saying you were simply ignorant and confused AFK processing with "waiting for crops", not sure how someone would confuse the two but whatever. Again, your exact words which I quoted, and now you're going back and saying "nuh uh, you're just reading it wrong!"

Anyone can read this for themselves, I don't need to expose your lying butt any more. So are you Afk processing, or waiting on crops, or "proximity reasons", whatever that means. This language and word choice you use...you set them up in ways where if you get caught in deceit, you have ways to backpedal by not providing direct statements. Always round-about. I wonder why.

Iv've stated numerous times on this forum my feelings about this kind of PK. It is abhorrent, done in bad spirits, when a player PKs someone tending their crops. Stating numerous times the improvements I wish to see when it comes to Karma, even making an entire thread asking for opinions on how to improve it. Karma system can be improved, and I hope to help in that process, 100%.

You just contradict yourself, attempt to plant seeds of doubt in player's minds, and skew players away from the game based on deceit, for who even knows what reason. Oh wait, I know. You're Vortexii, I remember now, you literally said yourself in the old forum that you are on some mission to "destroy PA". Too bad I can't go back and copy paste it, or else you'd really have nothing to backpedal on, but you'd probably try anyway if what I gathered about you is true.

You're a troll. Nothing more. Nothing less.

Well, this turn into a fight between 3-4 forums members, just like the good old forums.

I missed that.

That's a lot of avoidance, to break you down into finally saying what you should have said from the beginning:

That I am RIGHT and you absolutely agree with me.  That is the only valuable bit of information in that entire exchange.  Good to see you can own up to the fact that I am RIGHT about everything I stated.

It's comical though that you feel people should be penalized for pking someone doing crops.  As far as I know that has never been an issue or something anyone cared about.

It's good to see you growing up and admitting the truth that my statements are valid and correct.  Instead of squabbling about how you can't understand the situation and so confused about whether I was gathering a crop or processing ;)

Also, please learn from your mistakes.  You literally trolled all over the posts and then use the "I know you are, but what am I" tactic?  I stated I didn't care about the PK and your response was to bash on it like it was complaining.  All because you didn't want to address the simple truth that you clearly already knew.

Whatever dude. You're literally tripping over your own words. Nice to see that you've been successfully exposed for the deceitful troll you are, which is why you need to resort to strawman fallacy tactics.

So keep on denying the truth and asserting you're in the right, when clear as day, you've proven yourself to be a deceitful liar enough in this thread. Anyone reading can see it for themselves.

But who knows, maybe if I feel like it later, I'll do more copy and paste exposures to show this forum the kind of trolly hogwash you were known for in the old forum.

Whatever dude. You're literally tripping over your own words. Nice to see that you've been successfully exposed for the deceitful troll you are, which is why you need to resort to strawman fallacy tactics.

So keep on denying the truth and asserting you're in the right, when clear as day, you've proven yourself to be a deceitful liar enough in this thread. Anyone reading can see it for themselves.

But who knows, maybe if I feel like it later, I'll do more copy and paste exposures to show this forum the kind of trolly hogwash you were known for in the old forum.