OK, so it's been 2 years since manos release that raised lifeskilling up. Specifically, I am talking and discussing gathering here. Manos raised gathering up to a decent and competitive level of silver generation. 

When concerning yourself with manos level gathering you can choose to do many different types of activities to get a large variety of things with multiple purposes. The system is complicated and time-consuming to really get a grip on understanding it all. 

Once you get into late game you spend a handsome sum to get a lifeskill gear setup. Players of BDO and the community often compare it to combat monster grinding in various areas. 

Comparing gathering to combat is a trend to gauge time vs money in a lot of different scenarios. Heres an example: the budget is 120billion silver to make a build. Lifeskilling gets you 1800 mastery (average) and you make 300million silver at best gathering per hour given good market results. Combat gets 285kutum (average) and you can grind hadum areas like Orcs, you make 500million silver per hour. This example is based on many case studies done in the last 6 months. 

Recently combat has taken off and left gathering in the dust. Combat has been boosted by a myriad of things in the past 2 years and gathering has seen nothing since manos. If we review the increases in combat efficiency we look at things like- VP boosts now give loot scrolls daily. Night-time rare drop buff for combat. Security boost of 5% to rares in combat. Argis points to use with a free daily generation that boosts combat drops... etc the list goes on...

Overall the world of BDO has taken a favorite child, and that favorite child is combat. BDO is neglecting gathering and most forms of life skills too. 

I am writing this post here because the upcoming changes are yet another slap in the face to gathering. The plan is to make caphras easier to get via combat and missions. With changes like these, the combat gets stronger and gathering gets weaker as they now have an inverse relationship. 

Where is the love for gathering? PA, can we get a good change and improvement to the gathering, please? 

Odyllita and Elvia have killed all life skills.

didnt see u complain when lifeskilling was worth way more than grinding. :)

Ok I don't know where you are getting your numbers from, but Duo dead god alone is valued by the MP at 50b. Then Pen muskan, leebur, and green helm is 35b, which doesnt include caphras that you need to survive orcs or monastery. Now add 14b+ for A pen weapon, which assumes the build in question is succession and can afford to not have a tet or pen awake without losing power, 16b for pen kutum, and 11b for a vell's. Add another 14b if its an awakened build. So for the weapons the total is either 41 or 55b on top of the 85b from armor, again not including any caphras. Thats already 126b or 140b, without even considering the cost of a single accessory. Since you claimed 285k makes 500m on average, which it wont on most classes(but I wont even get into that as this part of your claim is rediculous enough), you would need a Tet disto and tungrad ear, 2 crescents, a basi, and a laytenn/ogre. All of these add up to another 46b worth of accessories.

This would get you 285k with blackstar weapon with all of your journals done, which I would assume any grinder would, but it is still lacking caphras of any kind. The succession build from before is 14b cheaper, but it is also lacking 2 AP, which means the difference must be made up with either another disto, which increases the accessory price by 13b, or if it is a kzarka 5 caphras levels, which costs 6.7b. However we still lack any armor caphras, leaving this build somewhere around the 345 DP mark. These spots are doable at that AP, but could be quite dangerous.

Long story short, no, 1800 mastery is not comperable with 285k in terms of cost to obtain, 152b for tet accs and pen clothes + tool vs 186b with NO CAPHRAS in the armor. c6 in the gloves and boots and c13 in the helmet are 2424 each and 2580. This isnt even considered to be good caphras levels yet, most people say c9 is when you ahve good caphras. So even having c6 raises the cost by another 19-20b. So, 152b is very clearly less expensive than 205b, by quite a wide margin. Even if the average 285k grinder could make 500m an hour, compared to a gatherer's 300m, they clearly spent a lot more for their gear and deserve to make more money. A high end orcs grinder CAN make over 500m, if hes lucky with weapons or uses agris, but the more realistic hour is a lot closer to 350m. Additionally, gatherers face no risk of death, and have a much easier and more relaxed grind.

Although I agree it sucks that lifeskilling is "falling behind" but Even with it being 40% less efficient, it still takes less effort and doesn't have stakes in losing crystals or using loot scrolls. I just need a way to gather longer than 50 minutes a day before I start having to chug energy pots......

The VP needs to give the choice between a 1k energy pot and a LS, Hunting needs to not cost any energy so that I can do that when I am out of energy, and I need to be able to select my lifeskiller to gain energy when Im active on other characters instead of using it on the characters that I just turn their energy into pots.

None of these changes effect the silver/hr of lifeskilling but would make it much easier to do it over forcing myself to grind after I'm out of energy.

Also, not sure how'd they do it, but I'd love for another way to bypass the marketplace to get silver instead like with imperials. That way I still have "trash loot" so Im sure to make something even if the market is kapoot.

In good mmo game best crafters don't need plebs grind because they make a fortune selling what they produce. 

This is a reward for painstakingly increasing your skills in a given field.

BDO = ingredients cost more than the final product. Curtain.

Kek

I knew when posting this that I would get a lot of toxic people complaining that combat gear requires so much more effort to get. 

They actually believe that they need 50billion worth of caphras stones after PEN boss armor in order to live in grind zones. 

In the meantime lets hear from people who lifeskill ----->

And just like that, you show you aren't interested in discussion, you just want your idea implemented no matter what. If you bothered to read at all, you would see that I said c9 is 20b worth of caphras, not 50. And I also gave you a figure WITHOUT caphras that was already 20% more expensive than your lifeskilling gear. And by the way, yeah, you kind of DO NEED that caphras to live in places like orcs and bloody monastery. I can tell you have never grinded there, while I have guru cooking as well as 281k and grind orcs. You see only one side of the situation, and insist that it is the worse one without ever considering the other side.